[Megathread] Skyrim Discussion

[Lizbeth]

Ahtar is probably the best choice. The executioner from Solitude. You might begrudge him his job, but what he says about how Sybille Stentor "deals" with prisoners - implying he is complicit with what is going on since he is also head jailer - makes me think he is shady. This wiki article explains it, I've seen all the quotations in-game too: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Sybille_Stentor.

Uthgerd the Unbroken in Whiterun is a little bit suspicious to me, there is an open letter from Maven Black-briar on her table in the Bannered Mare, which might imply she is an assassin. Although, it's difficult to verify this, and the letter could have been left as an after-thought in development, for some quest that was never implemented. If your character is very evil, you can follow the Namira quest, you get a follower from that who would make a good candidate.

Being an executioner he does make an obvious choice but he isn't exactly evil and hes married. Uthgerd is already out of the picture unfortunately. I made her into a blade.

And no, my character is an anti-hero but not evil, that's why I can't get Cicero either. Doing generally evilish things for greater good is ok but not murdering people who aren't murderers themselves. Unless they attack me for no reason of course:P

[GennGreymane]

/nerdgasm orgy
/no homo

NVM ALREADY ANSWERED. I SO EXCITE!

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As an Imperial

I SAY I don't know this will work if they're not part of the Empire...

what do you mean?

[Grizzly Willy]

I could see it working where you're sent in secret as an envoy to meet with the Redguards to broker an alliance with the Empire. After winning the war in Skyrim and establishing a clear dominance, the Empire is emboldened against the Aldmeri Dominion. However, they are still too weak to hope to stand up against the Elven forces, so they send the Dragonborn - the one who cinched the war for them - to aid the Redguards in their fight against the Aldmeri army. Eventually the Dominion would find out about this betrayal and launch a war on the Empire. Alternatively, it could be spun as the Dragonborn being played up as having betrayed the Empire, so Imperial forces would be hounding you in Redguard whenever the Aldmeri are looking, but otherwise helping or letting you pass.

To maintain parity with the Stormcloak version, it could be largely the same, except the Stormcloaks wouldn't have any reason to hide their intent.

Although, I could see the Aldmeri forces being kicked out of Skyrim. That would solve the issue of traveling back to Skyrim and encountering Aldmeri forces with a pro-Empire character. At that point the DLC would have to take place after the Civil War and Main Quest in order to prevent conflicts with existing quests.

[GennGreymane]

hmmm

maybe if you are empire allied, you might help the elves

if you are a storm clock, you help the red guard.

[Flaks]

I never quite understood why the Empire even gave in to the White-Gold Concordat.

The Empire obliterated the Dominion recently. Then, all of a sudden out of nowhere, the Dominion manages to corner the Empire and makes them sign a treaty. I'm clearly missing something.

[Mcstunner]

i would love to see a stormcloak and redguard alliance. that's the main reason i'm hoping that stormcloak skyrim is the lore outcome for this game.

and flaks, that's one of the main reasons that ulfric and the rest are so pissed about the concordat. the empire called for the treaty from a winning position. mede and his men decimated the main forces of the dominion in cyrodiil, but the empire was exhausted so he signed the treaty to give the empire time to build itself back up. it was sort of a foolish move, but... had the empire fallen too far, some other enemy could swoop in for a killing blow.

another part of the concordat that pissed people off, the terms were almost identical to the terms of a treaty that mede rejected that would have stopped the war from even starting in the first place.

[Malgo]

Dealing with the Aldemeri Dominion would be such a big task, so it would have to be a huge expansion to do it justice, it just seems unlikely to me, maybe it could be about the build up to the second great war and not the war it's self.

I am really enjoying Dragonborn it's got a touch of the familiar while bringing new content but Solstheim feels a little small, i am hoping the next patch/expansions is vast, quantity is what i want!

[Mcstunner]

i highly doubt it would even be a fraction of the war honestly. as i've said before, the war is just far too important to be dlc material, but gaining allies for the war would be alright. if they can't do ALL of the places that we'd be fighting the dominion, they should just do a piece of hammerfell, cyrodiil, valenwood and summerset.

[SirRobin]

I never quite understood why the Empire even gave in to the White-Gold Concordat.

The Empire obliterated the Dominion recently. Then, all of a sudden out of nowhere, the Dominion manages to corner the Empire and makes them sign a treaty. I'm clearly missing something.

Because they wanted a bigger reason for the Stormcloaks rebelling than "Imperials go home?"

[GennGreymane]

i feel like red guards and nords should get along just fine

[SirRobin]

Okay... Had to uninstall the Immersive Weapons mod. Love most of the weapons in there but a couple seriously hurt my eyes. Of course the Immersive Armors is still a must in my opinion. Think I'll try JaySuS Swords now. Might end up back with Crafting 300 again though. Was always impressed with how they separated the material from the design. Unfortunately they've run into some issues with redoing the armors so its going to be a while before they can include them I imagine.

Still looking for a good Skyforge mod. Its just never sat well with me how they share the steel designs. Still looking for a good shield mod too. Never been a fan of the steel shield.

Word of note for other rerollers, post-Dragonborn... Do not run into Miraak before you finish filling in the Dragon Shouts you want. Annoying as hell.

Figured I should mention, holy crap the aMidianBorn mods are impressive. Really great work.

[rainiothon]

Being an executioner he does make an obvious choice but he isn't exactly evil and hes married. Uthgerd is already out of the picture unfortunately. I made her into a blade.

No, I don't think he's evil because he's an executioner - although for Stormcloak fanatics who are horrified at the death of Roggvir it might make enough of a case. He implies that he allows a local vampire kill or eat prisoners from time to time - a fate worse than the executioners axe apperantly. I find that quite sinister, especially considering most settlements are hostile towards Vampires.

As for Uthgerd, it is harder to confirm whether she is an assassin or not. The letter looks like a thinly veiled threat from Maven Black-Briar sending someone to "help" the recipient, Christophe Bartlett. Uthgerd claims to have accidentally killed someone in training. Could it have been Christophe? Or are the incidents entirely unrelated, and the letter has nothing to do with Uthgerd.

The problem with Skyrim is so many loose ends are never tied up.

[Mcstunner]

you know, i didn't agree with them killing roggvir at first. but after talking to the guy that works at the winking skeever, i learned what a cruel dickhead roggvir was. so now i don't really care about his execution.

now, since we're the last dragonborn... i was kind of wondering if this would come up. the leader of the tiger people of akavir. he apparently turned himself into a dragon, and he's supposed to be the biggest dragon in the world. so, i'm wondering if we'll have to deal with him in some way? maybe all of this miraak and dovahkiin business got tosh raka's attention and now, since they're the strongest empire in akavir, they're looking to come and kill the dovahkiin and pwn some shit.

[Lizbeth]

you know, i didn't agree with them killing roggvir at first. but after talking to the guy that works at the winking skeever, i learned what a cruel dickhead roggvir was. so now i don't really care about his execution.

now, since we're the last dragonborn... i was kind of wondering if this would come up. the leader of the tiger people of akavir. he apparently turned himself into a dragon, and he's supposed to be the biggest dragon in the world. so, i'm wondering if we'll have to deal with him in some way? maybe all of this miraak and dovahkiin business got tosh raka's attention and now, since they're the strongest empire in akavir, they're looking to come and kill the dovahkiin and pwn some shit.

Nah, the next DLC will deal with dwemer and falmer and probably takes place in Hammerfell or more likely in Stros M'kai. The last one is supposed to be the biggest and will deal with the Thalmor and probably also selecting the new king of Skyrim. Don't ask for a source though, I can't be bothered to look it up again but it was supposed to be from some tweet from a developer with a good amount of half-confirmed rumors mixed in.

Anyway, I finally got to the Dawnguard part and I have to say I love castle Volkihar! The initial area is just the tip of the iceberg.. I wish the player could get that place fixed up, well, at least partly so all the areas would be more accessible and in use and the garden would get some love again, it looks so nice.

On another note, it's odd that none of the daedric princes are trying to get revenge on me:P I must have made at least 2 of them really mad at me.. Mehrunes for not killing that museum guy for the dagger and Vaermina for letting the priest destroy the staff (that thing really needs some buffs, I wasn't even tempted to kill the priest unlike with the dagger) and they do nothing, even commoners send thugs after me if I steal from them and pirates attack me if I kill their boss.

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Figured I should mention, holy crap the aMidianBorn mods are impressive. Really great work.

I can't use any other weapons because of him.. they just look so good. Everything else feels really low res and bad compared to those weapons and armor. I'm not really sure how I feel about JaySuS Swords though, maybe I'll download it. They look decent judging from those pictures.

[Mcstunner]

eh, the princes aren't very active... you'd think they'd be pretty pissed when their champion is also the champion of every other daedra out there. i find it funny to get the mace of molag bal, then immediately run and do the boethia quest. cause ya know, i'm sorry about beating your former follower into submission, i just needed that lewt.

[SirRobin]

Wow... Anyone notice how much the guards talk about "all these Hammerfell mercenaries walking around" since Dragonborn?

Pretty sure the biggest comment I used to get was the curved swords one every now and then. Now I hear it at least once every time I go through Whiterun.

Looks like I might need to reroll my reroll. My steward claimed the kids beds so they completely refuse to go to Lakeview. In fact, it looks like both of them completely glitched so I can't even talk to them. Ugh...

Anyone know how to un-own beds, fire stewards, or un-adopt?

[Lizbeth]

Wow... Anyone notice how much the guards talk about "all these Hammerfell mercenaries walking around" since Dragonborn?

Pretty sure the biggest comment I used to get was the curved swords one every now and then. Now I hear it at least once every time I go through Whiterun.

Looks like I might need to reroll my reroll. My steward claimed the kids beds so they completely refuse to go to Lakeview. In fact, it looks like both of them completely glitched so I can't even talk to them. Ugh...

Anyone know how to un-own beds, fire stewards, or un-adopt?

Kill the steward, then use the console to resurrect him then use resetai (just resurrect wont work properly without that). You might also try going to console, selecting the steward and typing disable, then enable first.

[Celista]

Okay... Had to uninstall the Immersive Weapons mod. Love most of the weapons in there but a couple seriously hurt my eyes. Of course the Immersive Armors is still a must in my opinion. Think I'll try JaySuS Swords now. Might end up back with Crafting 300 again though. Was always impressed with how they separated the material from the design. Unfortunately they've run into some issues with redoing the armors so its going to be a while before they can include them I imagine.

Still looking for a good Skyforge mod. Its just never sat well with me how they share the steel designs. Still looking for a good shield mod too. Never been a fan of the steel shield.

Word of note for other rerollers, post-Dragonborn... Do not run into Miraak before you finish filling in the Dragon Shouts you want. Annoying as hell.

Figured I should mention, holy crap the aMidianBorn mods are impressive. Really great work.

I haven't tried Immersive Armors yet, been experimenting with some others. Hunting Grounds armor set is really well done if you have a female toon, author did a great job.

[Lizbeth]

Ran into another small problem:P Does anyone know a mod that adds a carriage or a boat near castle Volkihar? I'm playing with fast travel disabled so its a pain to leave the place and it takes too long to get near anywhere civilized. At least getting there isn't a problem any more. The new boats take you there for 500 gold.

[GennGreymane]

do you think the nords and red guards will be buddies? they seem similar