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    Hand of Sacrifice with Divine Protection - Does this work?

    I recently read that Divine Protection does not mitigate the damage received from Hand of Sacrifice. Is this true? I assume that if Divine Protection doesn't reduce the damage coming in from Hand of Sacrifice, then neither would Stoneform?

    I've been under the assumption that Divine Protection and Hand of Sacrifice should be used together. (I've got it macro'd and been using that combo for awhile now.) Trying to figure out if this has been a waste or not.

    Thanks

  2. #2
    Divine protection will not mitigate any damage from hand of sacrifice, glyphed or not. However Hand of Protection will, you can bop yourself, and cast hand of sacrifice on your target, and take 0 damage for the duration of BoP. Using divine protection is not a bad thing to use with Hand of Sacrifice either, for example on Heroic Nefarian you can Sac your tank, pop divine protection glyphed and survive because of the reduced crackle damage. I'm sure I could think of many other examples.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Radicalatom View Post
    Divine protection will not mitigate any damage from hand of sacrifice, glyphed or not. However Hand of Protection will.
    This is incorrect. Hand of Sacrifice's damage transferred to you is dependent on what type of damage is done to the target which you cast Hand of Sacrifice upon. If it is physical damage, the transferred damage will be physical, so unglyphed Divine Protection will mitigate some of the damage. If it is magic damage, glyphed Divine Protection will mitigate a portion of the damage.

  4. #4
    Eviljoe is correct, I macro the 2 together and it works exactly like that. The added benefit of using Divine Prot is that it mitigates any personal physical damage you take at the same time, so you're not quite taking a double hit if say a loose add in Maloriak is trying to get your attention.

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    Assuming you do this, but just in-case you don't. Make sure you always key-bind abilities separately outside of a macro. Since there are times where you will want to use DP outside of being in conjunction with HoSac.

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    It doesn't work. The 2nd post here is correct. It was tested by Diamondtear and the logs were posted on EJ. DP does not mitigate damage from HoSac, sorry for ur luck.

    The HoP trick, now that may have some merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathimis View Post
    It doesn't work. The 2nd post here is correct. It was tested by Diamondtear and the logs were posted on EJ. DP does not mitigate damage from HoSac, sorry for ur luck.

    The HoP trick, now that may have some merit.
    Like I said earlier, this is incorrect. The post that he made was about whether HoS's damage type was the same damage type the target of the HoS was receiving, and how the glyphed version of DP (which mitigated magical damage) would mitigate magical damage, while the unglyphed version would mitigate physical damage.

  8. #8
    I just reread it, I was wrong /sigh

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    Not that it matters, most things you HoS won't kill you, unless you HoS during Nef's crackle.

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    I seem to remember HoS being a real killer to you in some Wotlk fights, especially if you talented it up to 40%.

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    It works well. Theres only a few specific fights at times where a bubble sac would be more viable to keep you alive.

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    I said HOS didn't work with Divine Prot, Not diamondtear >.>

    Eviljoe, I've tested it with Divine Prot glyphed on Arcane mobs, The transfer was not mitigated.

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    Well now, I thought that was the kinda thing Diamondtear posted in the EJ thread, but I couldn't find it when I was at work last noc

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveDkp View Post
    I said HOS didn't work with Divine Prot, Not diamondtear >.>

    Eviljoe, I've tested it with Divine Prot glyphed on Arcane mobs, The transfer was not mitigated.

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    Have you tried it for different types of damage? Diamondtear tested it as well, and in one of his blogs or guides (do not remember which) he posted that the DP would mitigate the damage that HoS was putting out, depending on whether or not DP was glyphed and what type the HoS target was taking. I have not tried this myself because, well, I really don't care that much, I just assumed that DT's tests/thinking was correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviljoe View Post
    Have you tried it for different types of damage? Diamondtear tested it as well, and in one of his blogs or guides (do not remember which) he posted that the DP would mitigate the damage that HoS was putting out, depending on whether or not DP was glyphed and what type the HoS target was taking. I have not tried this myself because, well, I really don't care that much, I just assumed that DT's tests/thinking was correct.
    Diamondtear never tested it. He suggested it could be for different damage but never posted the combat log if he even did test it.

    "What reason do you have to believe that it's holy damage or mitigated by DP? In wrath DP didn't affect HoS and in Cata damage transferred seems to be the same element as the damage the target takes (my msbt colors it according to element)." - Quoted from Diamondtear.

    http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t110847-...m_4_0_6_a/p25/ for the discussion about it.

    "I went with a rogue to Hyjal to make sure damage type was transferred by HoSac. Fireballs transferred fire and melee hits physical (shown in combat log as Fire or Physical). Didn't test DP, but I don't think DP affecting the damage would make a real difference in the way you use those spells or what glyphs you would use."

    But Divine Prot doesn't mitigate the transfer at all. Diamondtear said the opposite that it doesn't mitigate it. He didn't test it, I did.
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    I was wondering the same thing, and I based my response on personal testing. I went to hyjal to the ascendant lord looking mobs, and tested this with a priest healer quite some time ago. When the mob cast the flame breath and DP (Glyphed) was up the damage from HoS was exactly the same as without DP being used.

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