Yeah, no offense, but all we're really getting is that you're yelled at because you're a small amount of cs behind the other guy.
Surely there's something else to it? Because that doesn't seem like a whole lot.
I know it's something else, sorry if it makes out I'm trying to sound cocky or anything I'm really not, I know I'm doing something more wrong
Forget that bit then, I'll try playing a few more games first and then upload replays. But any tips to my second questions ^^?
So does anyone have tips for last hitting better?
Can you make it so it won't attack the closest thing to you if you're not attacking anything? That's hella annoying.
Could you recommend me some top champions to try? I've been playing olaf but I don't think I'm great with him (or I'm building him wrong)
Though I think 'S' stops attacks? Haven't tried it personally.
As for top laners to try, Jax, Cho'gath, Irelia. All strong champions. Garen is cheap and can be a beast up top especially against people who are overconfident.
Try to get used to pressing S when you want to stop moving. It'll stop all movement and auto-attacking, so you don't have to keep clicking around.
Olaf is kind of a champion you have to be really "quick" about. You need to do stuff fast with him to bring out his full potential.
I can't think of many champions. There's Jayce who switches between melee and ranged, for when you need to safely farm from a distance, and when you need to get close and bring the pain.
Sorry, simple top champions isn't my area of expertise. I'm sure someone else will help with that though.
EDIT: Yes, Garen is pretty simple. He's kind of susceptible to ranged poke though, but he's fairly tanky and does decent damage.
Pressing S makes your character stop and not attack. Just get into the habit of hitting it whenever you stop or just constantly keep moving. You could also just rekeybind stuff.
Top champions? Riven, Renekton, Olaf, Cho'Gath, etc...There are a ton of possible top champions. If you want t a specific answer I'd pop over to the "What champion should I buy" thread and give us some more specific information on what type o champion you're looking for.
On the whole Darius thing...He's fine. He has damage and the potential to snowball. That's all. He's easily shut down in lane by either:
a) Picking the right counter (Kennen, Kayle, Yorick, etc...)
b) Getting ganks (He naturally pushes and has no mobility at all).
c) Both l0l
If you shut him down in lane then those True Damage ults in the teamfight? He'll be dead before he can get them off is he's underfarmed and weak from ganks/counterpicking. Sure, he may not be the most fun champion to play against, but honestly? Who enjoys playing against a Vlad, Teemo, Eve, etc? This whole "Everything must be 100% fun and fair" type mindset is a bit annoying. Counters exist, counterplay exists. You just don't like him because his kit is fucking easy really.
I'm okay with last hitting it's self, what I can't handle is an enemy champion poking at me constantly and getting me low enough that I have to really hold back or B and still beat my farm ^^ or is that due to not enough practice at last hitting?
Thanks for the S tip, I'll keep that in mind when I do stay still at times and thanks for the champion suggestions. I have olaf, riven, garen, and a few others I think I'll experiment a bit. And the only thing I hate about darius is his ultimate :P (then again who doesn't)
this thread and people will look over it and give you tips and what not.
(someone please post something that's not an ap carry or a support)
And yes, I'll definitely post in that thread after my next game you're all so friendly
I would recommend playing olaf if you are having this trouble. Of course if you are olaf, you shouldn't be having this trouble. He can duel in the lane very well and has a massive true damage nuke. If you do get pressed up against the tower, say because you are being camped, Undertow is amazing for farming. It hits quite hard with just the base damage and can be picked up to lower/refresh the cd.
You can press S to just stand still and not attack anything, but that's not a good way. Best way is to constantly, at all times, run around. 10x harder to hit skillshots on you for bot the enemy laner and possibly ganking jungler and stops you from attacking minions. Also makes it easier to engage if you wish to do so.
Yes I've been playing with olaf when it happens. My damage can't out-do theirs or I'm blasted from long range. I think in 1 game was vs Jayce, 1 vs Jax, 1 vs Darius, the others I forgot but each time they had jungler hugging them qq. Alright going to go into a game now, would you say I shouldn't play olaf since it seems I can't duel well?
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Just keep playing him, you'll get better eventually (with the right attitude).
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Yeah ofc I'll try another game with olaf then post it on that thread when I'm done. Can anyone also recommend a 'base-line' type build. I know what you should build varies from game to game but recently I've been going like this
Then Ninja tabi/Merc treds. Then Giants belt. Then Kindlegem. Then Warmogs. Then Negatron cloak. Then Spirit visage. Then Wardens mail. Then (not got passed here yet)
Thanks After reply to this I'm going into a game ^^.
However, I will say that you shouldn't follow a certain route and go with that every time.
Every champion has their core set of items in which to get every game (almost). And then after that, everything is situational. Always build towards how the game's going. Always. Adapt, and you'll win more games.
That's a pretty standard build. You could get the kindlegem earlier if you wanted cdr faster, but giant's belt is a good item to pick up. You can also get cdr boots on him because once again cdr is awesome on Olaf. You can throw more axes, you can reckless swing more and your ult is up faster.
The build you listed should work fine. You can add in a frozen mallet or a maw for damage if you get to that point. Though always build according to the game. If they have a whole bunch of ADs, get the kindle gem but turn it into a shurylia's instead of a spirit visage etc.