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    The new elo system is terrible. I've been matched with incredibly terrible teammates for the last 3 games. They played as if they were level 15. No teamwork, all feed. Pre-season 3 it was great. My teams actually did something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendXV View Post
    The new elo system is terrible. I've been matched with incredibly terrible teammates for the last 3 games. They played as if they were level 15. No teamwork, all feed. Pre-season 3 it was great. My teams actually did something.
    oh no, you got matched with terrible people! this has never happened to anyone before. this means the new system really must suck! oh no. whatever shall we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adimaya View Post
    oh no, you got matched with terrible people! this has never happened to anyone before. this means the new system really must suck! oh no. whatever shall we do.
    Nobody can match up to the power of my jungler who ran in to gank top lane when he was at 30% hp and the enemy had a huge amount of minions. Funny thing is that I still survived the lane even against a double buff Nid zoning the crap out of me and came back later on in the game.

    Sure having shitty team mates suck, but you got to remember sometimes you win the game because the other team has the feeders and sometimes you still win even when a couple members weren't that great. You cant expect all of your games to have everybody going at least even. I find it best to just do a rant on a horrible game to get it out of my system and then forget about it. Because in the end I also have games where I lose my lane and don't preform well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz View Post
    People really need to stop blaming them losing the lane on the enemy champion.
    some champions are counters to other champions. Garen won't survive a lane vs Teemo unless your jungler stalks the top jungle 24/7 and even then Teemo has free wards in the form of exploding mushrooms of annoyance.

    some champions can not play vs other champions unless they get terribly fed/reach end game etc. that said Garen isn't particularly strong vs a set amount of champions. he is however generically good at what he does but lacks a hard gap closer which is almost a prerequisite of a top in the current meta today.

    I do not see how Garen is any easier to play than any other top champion tho. they all pretty much lack skillshots and exotic manipulation of the environment in your favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendXV View Post
    The new elo system is terrible. I've been matched with incredibly terrible teammates for the last 3 games. They played as if they were level 15. No teamwork, all feed. Pre-season 3 it was great. My teams actually did something.
    Being matched with bad players doesn't necessarily speak about the new ranking system though - it could just be a stroke of bad luck, or the opposing team could have been quite a bit better so it made your teammates look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adimaya View Post
    some champions are counters to other champions. Garen won't survive a lane vs Teemo unless your jungler stalks the top jungle 24/7 and even then Teemo has free wards in the form of exploding mushrooms of annoyance.

    some champions can not play vs other champions unless they get terribly fed/reach end game etc. that said Garen isn't particularly strong vs a set amount of champions. he is however generically good at what he does but lacks a hard gap closer which is almost a prerequisite of a top in the current meta today.

    I do not see how Garen is any easier to play than any other top champion tho. they all pretty much lack skillshots and exotic manipulation of the environment in your favour.
    Yeah I know Garen counters some champions. However just because you get countered doesn't automatically mean you're free of any blame for what happens in your lane. Pretty much everybody is going to get counterpicked at some point and they need to change how they play when that happens instead of acting like it's a normal lane where they can just freely farm for everything and even start fights.

    If I lose lane just in terms of CS and I still have the ability to become something for late game then I consider my job done in a countered lane even if my tower is gone as long as I make sure to warn people when the guy tries to roam. If I die multiple times because I misplayed it then I consider it my fault and don't just blame it on being counterpicked.

    Also I feel that S3 has done a good job at making it easier to handle being counterpicked. Now you can start with a massive amount of sustain and if worse comes to worse just get a Warmogs or Sunfire as your first item. Sure your damage will be low, but you'll get more gold overall if you can survive them. Or you could just do what Voyboy does and build both and somehow still be able to kill people.

    On another topic, Seeker's Armguard. Seriously that item looks amazing for the cost of it.
    Last edited by Kilz; 2013-02-02 at 05:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinoa View Post
    Being matched with bad players doesn't necessarily speak about the new ranking system though - it could just be a stroke of bad luck, or the opposing team could have been quite a bit better so it made your teammates look bad.
    3 games in a row? Mid and ADC feeding lane? Our dragon was warded and we saw the jungler coming at like five miles away, and our Cait stood in lane farming and even went forward to engage in a 2v3.

    Our Katarina "counter picks" Diana.

    Our Karthus "counter picks" Katarina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    I rediscovered how awesome Rumble is.
    I like how almost a year ago, when I started playing LoL again, I got him and kept owning and mentioning how awesome he is for like two months, and people were like "lol k".
    MILLIONS OF YEARS LATER: Everyone figures how awesome he is. Am I just uninteresting or what

    Also to answer a previous question; I thought Styles was you. It was shortly after he came back.
    He was being all "i suck now qq", and I was like "lol nope", the end.

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    Seeing a lot more of Hecarim in ranked Silver D3 - D1. What gives? I hate the horse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayum View Post
    Seeing a lot more of Hecarim in ranked Silver D3 - D1. What gives? I hate the horse..
    He has a pretty beastly late game, assuming you can get over the hurdle of his weak early game. His W can heal for lots assuming he gets fed, and he makes great use of the new gauntlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grading View Post
    I like how almost a year ago, when I started playing LoL again, I got him and kept owning and mentioning how awesome he is for like two months, and people were like "lol k".
    MILLIONS OF YEARS LATER: Everyone figures how awesome he is. Am I just uninteresting or what

    Also to answer a previous question; I thought Styles was you. It was shortly after he came back.
    He was being all "i suck now qq", and I was like "lol nope", the end.
    I played him a bunch right around the flamespitter fix. I don't remember why I dropped him. It was probably for Darius or Riven. He's a solid way to gain Elo though. I could be really behind or underfed as Rumble, but his ult is so awesome that it completely screws over the other team in team fights. Of course, it's really buggy on smart cast so I've screwed up a bunch, but when it works I destroy people.

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    I always zone people out of lane as Rumble. Even jerks like Singed. Good feel.

    @Hecarim: Yeah, great late game. Seeing how easy it is to get fed on... "less experienced" players (or bad if you will), he is very effective in that range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayum View Post
    Seeing a lot more of Hecarim in ranked Silver D3 - D1. What gives? I hate the horse..
    Hecarim is a "carry" jungler because he also has damage. So I would expect to see a lot more Hecarim/Lee Sin/Nocturne in parts where people are trying to carry games. If a Maokai gets fed you don't really think "OMG HE GONNA KILL ME!" compared to the more damage focused junglers.

    Also his ult is awesome and he is a horse.

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    Well I just played Nocturne jungle as a tank and by tank I mean the only damage item I built watos Frozen Mallet. I just dominated and it was great because AD Yi was murdered by me so many times... Thornmail, his biggest counter. Ryze became a powerhouse in the end and anyone who was snared was demolished within seconds usually. I seem to like Nocturne in the jungle quite a bit due to how fucking easy it is to gank lanes. I mean seriously I can gank Lee Sin all day long and not have trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    Well I just played Nocturne jungle as a tank and by tank I mean the only damage item I built watos Frozen Mallet. I just dominated and it was great because AD Yi was murdered by me so many times... Thornmail, his biggest counter. Ryze became a powerhouse in the end and anyone who was snared was demolished within seconds usually. I seem to like Nocturne in the jungle quite a bit due to how fucking easy it is to gank lanes. I mean seriously I can gank Lee Sin all day long and not have trouble.
    You didn't build a Wriggles? Noc has enough Innate Damage with Q & W to go Wriggles as only real offensive item early game. Then if you're snowballing grab a BC or if you aren't/team's only engage sadly, then a Aegis or Warmogs. I feel that Mallet is generally a waste on Noc; You have enough gap close and sticking with W & E, and I'd rather get the pure tank items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurdiern View Post
    You didn't build a Wriggles? Noc has enough Innate Damage with Q & W to go Wriggles as only real offensive item early game. Then if you're snowballing grab a BC or if you aren't/team's only engage sadly, then a Aegis or Warmogs. I feel that Mallet is generally a waste on Noc; You have enough gap close and sticking with W & E, and I'd rather get the pure tank items.
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    EDIT: We didn't have anyone else who could really tank. Talon, Ryze, Janna, Graves... I was best suited to build full tank which worked out quite well in the end.
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    My first win in ranked after losing 6 games, not all in one go though. http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/29273766#history

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    My first win in ranked after losing 6 games, not all in one go though. http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/29273766#history
    Gratz. I am currently at 3 wins out of 5 games, with my success being when I got ADC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendXV View Post
    3 games in a row? Mid and ADC feeding lane? Our dragon was warded and we saw the jungler coming at like five miles away, and our Cait stood in lane farming and even went forward to engage in a 2v3.

    Our Katarina "counter picks" Diana.

    Our Karthus "counter picks" Katarina.
    But why would the league system find 5 good players for the opposing team and some bad players on your team so you guys could have an imbalanced patch? To me it just sounds like some of the players on either team could have been a bit out of their league because of how people can get carried in teamgames. It's not really the matchmaking systems fault if they have around the same rating.

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    ogn winter finals on right now. najin sword vs azubu frost. maknoon could win 1v9 though, so..

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