1. #25921
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    cool, thanks for all the builds, I'll be trying them out momentarily...

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  2. #25922
    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    I didn't said that best overall item makes you easier to kill, I said that getting HP item (like belt) can be easily countered buy poking you in the face with range skills, or pulling creeps on you. Not all top lane duels starts at 100% vs 100% health, usually you want to weaken your enemy and force your creeps to hit him (like when you have 6 ranged creeps and he has last one melee, if he is still in range on creep attack, you can stun/slow him so he will eat damage from them).

    IMO the best item against poke is a Banshee =)
    And Omen brings much more utility into a fight than Warmogs
    I mean extra HP can be negated by long-range poke and bringing ONLY HP is a bad thing to do, while bringing less HP but mixed with armor/MR (depending on threat) is good, but even with armor/MR you need means to recover your lost health (lifesteal, regen, abilities, potions).
    I tried building Rene into sunfire and it was horrible, i did zero damage on line, i had 400 more health and ton of armor on line, but enemy irelia hit me twice as hard and i couldn't even deal damage to her due to healing from her lifesteal. But if i fight on top and mine enemy builds warmog, usually it won't end good for him since i still be able to crush through it with hit-and-run tactic.
    Banshee is a terrible item against constant poke actually. You would need to not be hit for 25 seconds to get the shield back. It's more of an item to counter champions who have one ability that will mess you up if they land it. Warmogs at least provides regen to sustain some of the damage.

  3. #25923
    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    Yes. Since they made Armor and MR more expensive and health cheaper, rushing Giant's Belt into a Warmog's later is the new form of snowballing a lane.
    This. Most champs add a Brutalizer into the equation right after the Giant's Belt. This makes for a very solid, but rather cheap early-mid build.

  4. #25924
    It's an interesting feeling when you get so fed as Poppy that your ult is more for just ignoring CC rather than damage. Triforce/Gunblade/Shurelya's/GA with a score of 19/2/9. Didn't even use my ult sometimes because I was chasing Kat and Graves away from their entire team in a 1v2 situation and neither wanted to stop running. Was more like let the one I catch die so the other can get away.

    Oh Poppy, you so unfair to the enemy sometimes. Too bad it's hard to lane as Poppy and she has no wave clear for mass farming. Apparently Riot doesn't want to try to make Poppy viable for competitive play because of how oppressive she can be. I guess that makes sense considering she can win games all by herself if she gets items. They cant really mess with her ult or passive without ruining who Poppy is like how you cant change Shen's ult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz View Post
    It's an interesting feeling when you get so fed as Poppy that your ult is more for just ignoring CC rather than damage. Triforce/Gunblade/Shurelya's/GA with a score of 19/2/9. Didn't even use my ult sometimes because I was chasing Kat and Graves away from their entire team in a 1v2 situation and neither wanted to stop running. Was more like let the one I catch die so the other can get away.

    Oh Poppy, you so unfair to the enemy sometimes. Too bad it's hard to lane as Poppy and she has no wave clear for mass farming. Apparently Riot doesn't want to try to make Poppy viable for competitive play because of how oppressive she can be. I guess that makes sense considering she can win games all by herself if she gets items. They cant really mess with her ult or passive without ruining who Poppy is like how you cant change Shen's ult.
    It's not just Poppy, quite a bit of champions are still not viable in competitive play due to being nerfed because their kits are toxic to pub games (i.e. Heimerdinger, all the melee carries, not counting AP Yi because that's something different), they can't deal enough damage in teamfights overall or survive massive burst damage (i.e. LeBlanc, Brand, Annie, Veigar), their kits are completely outclassed by others (Viktor, Volibear borderline because while GG did pick him, he wasn't able to bring much to their team, Sejuani) or the kits were not designed to fit with the current meta. (Karma)
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    Bah, i use Poppys ult on enemy ADC and ram into his face, ignite him, shoot from gunblade and crush his skull with hammer. 40% damage increase on ignite is too good to skip. It is almost 1.3k damage burst over 2 seconds without smashing him into a wall
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  7. #25927
    So the lunar skins happened. I wanted the Xin one, but didnt have him, so i decided to get him. Since i have tops i like already, i decided to put him in the jungle. Now im sitting here wondering why i never tried it before. Its so easy to carry a game with Xin, especially from the jungle. Gank a few times, get your damage and tankiness items, then proceed to own. Lategame warmogs -> immortal.

    Suddenly the jungle is incredibly fun to be in 0.o

  8. #25928
    Pedo is a bit like Singed in utility, but capable of jungling. Since somebody did it, people will try it too and find that it's not all that bad.

  9. #25929
    when is Quinn coming out on the pbe ffs Riot plz

  10. #25930
    What do you guys build on Elise top? I know Mrp is good on her and some tankyness.

    I'm going most of the time Sorc Shoes>Liandrys>Iceborn Gauntlet(Procs of her 6 abilities and the 10% on Liandrys),Warmogs, and a Giants belt in the middle of the itens. what else after this?

    I tried some guides like lolpro and solomid but i find they build her kind glass cannon
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  11. #25931
    Quote Originally Posted by Durmindo View Post
    What do you guys build on Elise top? I know Mrp is good on her and some tankyness.

    I'm going most of the time Sorc Shoes>Liandrys>Iceborn Gauntlet(Procs of her 6 abilities and the 10% on Liandrys),Warmogs, and a Giants belt in the middle of the itens. what else after this?

    I tried some guides like lolpro and solomid but i find they build her kind glass cannon
    Abyssal Scepter, Liandry's and Rylai's are pretty much core on her afaik.

    You'll want as much MPen combined with beefiness towards mid game. Haunting Guise is a recommended first buy. After that I would get a Giant's Belt and build that into Rylai's. Build Sorc Shoes whenever.

  12. #25932
    Quote Originally Posted by Durmindo View Post
    What do you guys build on Elise top? I know Mrp is good on her and some tankyness.

    I'm going most of the time Sorc Shoes>Liandrys>Iceborn Gauntlet(Procs of her 6 abilities and the 10% on Liandrys),Warmogs, and a Giants belt in the middle of the itens. what else after this?

    I tried some guides like lolpro and solomid but i find they build her kind glass cannon
    I usually go haunting guise into sunfire cape on her top lane, atleast get a giants belts after your haunting guise. Then you can finish off with abyssal,liandrys rylais and warmogs. Sorc shoes are great but you might need tabis vs some lanes and mercs vs some teams. Frozen heart is also pretty good late game if you have a free spot.

  13. #25933
    Sunfire, Frozen Heart, Hourglass, etc are other options... it really depends on who you are against and what your team needs. Sorc boots and Haunting Guise are the items you should buy all the time.

  14. #25934
    Thanks for the fast response guys i'll check it after watching The walking dead.

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    Don't really know where to post this but much laughs where had and I think some of you might enjoy this little story.

    So I was going top as Renekton in normal, it was my first time playing him (picked him up before that). And lo and behold it's Teemo I'm facing. I proceeded with stomping his face in the whole game. Got first blood etc etc. I took his tower down when I already picked up 4 kills. Now here comes the fun part. I went roaming after taking the down the tower and kept on ganking and stealing buffs/creeps from the enemy jungler.

    And what is this? Teemo farming all alone in top? Great! Let's kill him! I screwed up somewhere by showing myself to early resulting Teemo running into a bush. Now I did not know if he was still there so I used Renekton E (Dash) to get into the bush. I see nothing... Meh. But what is this? Dash procced. I hit something. Turns out Teemo never ran away he stealthed in that bush and I hit him with Dash. I started the AOE and eventually ''You have killed an enemy'' pops up. So so satisfying. My whole team cracked up on this. One of the funnest and best games I've had recently.

    So yeah. Killing Teemo. Loving it!

    Also I think i've fallen in love with Renekton such a fun champion.

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    Omg so much win. I would love to kill a teemo while he was stealthed. So annoying that bastard

  17. #25937
    Quote Originally Posted by Durmindo View Post
    What do you guys build on Elise top? I know Mrp is good on her and some tankyness.

    I'm going most of the time Sorc Shoes>Liandrys>Iceborn Gauntlet(Procs of her 6 abilities and the 10% on Liandrys),Warmogs, and a Giants belt in the middle of the itens. what else after this?

    I tried some guides like lolpro and solomid but i find they build her kind glass cannon
    Tbh for any top champ you should see if Voyboy plays them, I love em.

    In most cases I go for a nearly pure tank spec on Elise. 9/21 defense masteries. I either start with the +Health/mana thing and a pot or cloth armor and pots, depending on jungler a ward too.

    Against AD tops I get that new item (armor + AP, + extra armor and AP on minions kills (builds into Zhonyas anyways). Mostly Sorc Shoes, Giant Belt, Glacial, Warmog, Frozen Heart (or Gauntlet if anyone else wants Frozen Heart), Abyssal or Banshees depending on enemy set-up, Zhonyas. If I feel I'm tanky enough I could get Liandry's for more Ap and MPen.

    But in general you do enough damage and can get tanky as fuck.

  18. #25938
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenhou View Post
    So the lunar skins happened. I wanted the Xin one, but didnt have him, so i decided to get him. Since i have tops i like already, i decided to put him in the jungle. Now im sitting here wondering why i never tried it before. Its so easy to carry a game with Xin, especially from the jungle. Gank a few times, get your damage and tankiness items, then proceed to own. Lategame warmogs -> immortal.

    Suddenly the jungle is incredibly fun to be in 0.o
    The new corki's lunar skin is amazing too, fireworks....fireworks everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priestlie View Post
    Don't really know where to post this but much laughs where had and I think some of you might enjoy this little story.

    So I was going top as Renekton in normal, it was my first time playing him (picked him up before that). And lo and behold it's Teemo I'm facing. I proceeded with stomping his face in the whole game. Got first blood etc etc. I took his tower down when I already picked up 4 kills. Now here comes the fun part. I went roaming after taking the down the tower and kept on ganking and stealing buffs/creeps from the enemy jungler.

    And what is this? Teemo farming all alone in top? Great! Let's kill him! I screwed up somewhere by showing myself to early resulting Teemo running into a bush. Now I did not know if he was still there so I used Renekton E (Dash) to get into the bush. I see nothing... Meh. But what is this? Dash procced. I hit something. Turns out Teemo never ran away he stealthed in that bush and I hit him with Dash. I started the AOE and eventually ''You have killed an enemy'' pops up. So so satisfying. My whole team cracked up on this. One of the funnest and best games I've had recently.

    So yeah. Killing Teemo. Loving it!

    Also I think i've fallen in love with Renekton such a fun champion.
    I remember throwing Dravens ult to help our top laner to kill someone (i was farming bot line) and it stopped somewhere near baron and started rolling back. It was stealthed eve. She took damage from first hit, but second killed her and gave me +500g shutdown
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  20. #25940
    Just wondering, but are there right now in the game champs that can fulfill all roles? The only one I can think of right now is Kayle...

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