1. #34041
    Quote Originally Posted by LaReine View Post
    I'm so lost. This thread is too general.
    Can I ask about playing a new champion if I have played 2 already and how well do you think I'll do with those champs? Lol, excuse my tiredness.
    Sure thing, I'll try to respond to the best of my ability.

  2. #34042
    Quote Originally Posted by Drikkink View Post
    ARAM and all, I know... but I rolled anivia and right before I hit 18, I got buffed by our lulu plus I had Seraphs and Rabadon's and Abyssal. I dropped the ult on the group of enemies I could see while we ran away and threw a Q backwards. Suddenly PENTAKILL.
    I wonder if there's anything more than a pentakill. K, I know that sounds dumb but just hear me out. You kill the entire team when you killed each member for their first time. Then, as soon as the next of each survive, you camp and kill them again. Imagine you've already spawned super minions and are that their nexus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CM Punk View Post
    Sure thing, I'll try to respond to the best of my ability.
    Cool, thanks. So, I can play both Ashe and Kaladin so-so on beginner level. (I'm level 14 right now, so guess that's pretty bad.) I have been DYING to play Nidalee. My first 90 in WoW I switched from Boom to Feral Druid last few levels and guess who Nidalee reminds me of =D
    I feel that having an understanding of switching forms, I should probably know when to switch and how I can use my kitty advantageously.
    Idk what Nidalee's mechanics are for sure and how they'll work with the champions I'm already used to, but feel my feral background has got to help at least a little.
    Ultimately my question after that background knowledge: do you think I can transition to Nidalee? I was thinking of buying her at 30, but do you think it'll be too late by then? If 30's too late, at what level do you think I should get Nidalee?
    (I can be semi-slow with games sometimes, so don't think I'm typical über gamer awesomeness.)

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    And not surprisingly, Master Yi will be toned down come Patch 3.11. If only they did this route with Karma's rework, (tune her numbers to be really OP) as she's still has one of the lowest win and usage rates, despite all the buffs she got and her use in the EU LCS successfully.

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  4. #34044
    Quote Originally Posted by LaReine View Post
    Cool, thanks. So, I can play both Ashe and Kaladin so-so on beginner level. (I'm level 14 right now, so guess that's pretty bad.) I have been DYING to play Nidalee. My first 90 in WoW I switched from Boom to Feral Druid last few levels and guess who Nidalee reminds me of =D
    I feel that having an understanding of switching forms, I should probably know when to switch and how I can use my kitty advantageously.
    Idk what Nidalee's mechanics are for sure and how they'll work with the champions I'm already used to, but feel my feral background has got to help at least a little.
    Ultimately my question after that background knowledge: do you think I can transition to Nidalee? I was thinking of buying her at 30, but do you think it'll be too late by then? If 30's too late, at what level do you think I should get Nidalee?
    (I can be semi-slow with games sometimes, so don't think I'm typical über gamer awesomeness.)
    Honestly, from my experience, anyone has the capacity to play any champion they want and with practice can become with champions. Personally, I've found that I can play some champions more easily than others, and they have just "clicked" with me straight away. Mine being Gangplank, Volibear, Teemo. For some reason, I can pick these champions up after not playing them for months on end and play just like I used to.

    Nidalee is a fun champion. She's not a top tier pick but still hovers near the mid-top "card" in terms of where she is. She can be built both AP and AD-tank. AP (Ability Power) relies on poking with your spear and healing/trapping area's to increase your siege potential. An AD based build is primarily used for split pushing, and fighting people 1v1. It makes you tankier, makes your cougar form Q + E (I believe) hit harder, and because you're investing in increasing your auto attack damage, makes taking down turrets quite easy, especially if you have a Sheen/Triforce with your Attack speed buff on your heal.

    In regards to when you should buy her - It doesn't matter in the slightest. As a new player to LoL, I'd give you the advice that you shouldn't be worrying about which champions to buy, rather than nailing the game mechanics down that will transition to all champions.

    A) Learn how to last hit minions, so that you have minimal push to your lane. Last hitting minions will give you a gold advantage over an opponent that can't.
    B) Learn how to position in team fights. You want to stay alive as long as possible to do as much damage/peel/tank as possible
    C) Learn the timers on objectives. Blue/Red buff = 5 minutes, Dragon = 6 minutes, Baron Nashor = 7 minutes.
    D) Slowly get a feel of what each champion can do and how frequently. This will take time. League isn't a rush to the top though. The more knowledge you have, the "easier" the game will become, but it still relies on you having the mechanical skill to take advantage of peoples mistakes
    E) Learn how to ward properly and efficiently. Learn the proper ward spots

  5. #34045
    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    And not surprisingly, Master Yi will be toned down come Patch 3.11. If only they did this route with Karma's rework, (tune her numbers to be really OP) as she's still has one of the lowest win and usage rates, despite all the buffs she got and her use in the EU LCS successfully.
    Unfortunately, we did not meet one goal we'd hoped to - better in high-ranked games, and not as stompy in low-ranked ones. This is still occurring, which means Yi is in beast mode for a vast majority of players.
    So basically they're saying he's finally gotten better in higher ranked games, but still stomps low levels which is a problem.

    I bet they destroy him again.

  6. #34046
    Quote Originally Posted by CM Punk View Post
    Honestly, from my experience, anyone has the capacity to play any champion they want and with practice can become with champions. Personally, I've found that I can play some champions more easily than others, and they have just "clicked" with me straight away. Mine being Gangplank, Volibear, Teemo. For some reason, I can pick these champions up after not playing them for months on end and play just like I used to.

    Nidalee is a fun champion. She's not a top tier pick but still hovers near the mid-top "card" in terms of where she is. She can be built both AP and AD-tank. AP (Ability Power) relies on poking with your spear and healing/trapping area's to increase your siege potential. An AD based build is primarily used for split pushing, and fighting people 1v1. It makes you tankier, makes your cougar form Q + E (I believe) hit harder, and because you're investing in increasing your auto attack damage, makes taking down turrets quite easy, especially if you have a Sheen/Triforce with your Attack speed buff on your heal.

    In regards to when you should buy her - It doesn't matter in the slightest. As a new player to LoL, I'd give you the advice that you shouldn't be worrying about which champions to buy, rather than nailing the game mechanics down that will transition to all champions.

    A) Learn how to last hit minions, so that you have minimal push to your lane. Last hitting minions will give you a gold advantage over an opponent that can't.
    B) Learn how to position in team fights. You want to stay alive as long as possible to do as much damage/peel/tank as possible
    C) Learn the timers on objectives. Blue/Red buff = 5 minutes, Dragon = 6 minutes, Baron Nashor = 7 minutes.
    D) Slowly get a feel of what each champion can do and how frequently. This will take time. League isn't a rush to the top though. The more knowledge you have, the "easier" the game will become, but it still relies on you having the mechanical skill to take advantage of peoples mistakes
    E) Learn how to ward properly and efficiently. Learn the proper ward spots
    Tyvm!! Seem like very good suggestions. Are you ranked? You seem like you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    So basically they're saying he's finally gotten better in higher ranked games, but still stomps low levels which is a problem.

    I bet they destroy him again.
    It's ridiculous how my brother is on Yi. He just started playing and in week 2 of playing he was dominating on Yi his 2nd day buying him. Makes my Kass look like a little kid.

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    I've been dying to try master yi since he got reworked and I have no idea what to build on him.

    Botkr or BT? PD or Shiv after? I really am not seeing what I should build on him now lol. Probably just pure AD because of his Q.
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  8. #34048
    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    I've been dying to try master yi since he got reworked and I have no idea what to build on him.
    Build absolutely anything that increases your rightclick damage.
    You could probably build 6 Banshee's and still win.

  9. #34049
    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    I've been dying to try master yi since he got reworked and I have no idea what to build on him.

    Botkr or BT? PD or Shiv after? I really am not seeing what I should build on him now lol. Probably just pure AD because of his Q.
    Well BT has the advantage of having massive amounts of AD, BotrK has less AD (though an active for damage) but does have AS, which scales incredibly well with your passive (pretty sure your passive procs the passive from BotrK twice, it also seems to proc the passive from your Q twice). As for PD or Shiv, I prefer Shiv, makes you push faster then a retard on crack, you get quite a lot of Crit so the passive crits quite often too.

    Rest is pretty much changing depending on your team and enemy etc.

  10. #34050
    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    And not surprisingly, Master Yi will be toned down come Patch 3.11. If only they did this route with Karma's rework, (tune her numbers to be really OP) as she's still has one of the lowest win and usage rates, despite all the buffs she got and her use in the EU LCS successfully.
    prob get rid of crit on q and should be fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    I've been dying to try master yi since he got reworked and I have no idea what to build on him.

    Botkr or BT? PD or Shiv after? I really am not seeing what I should build on him now lol. Probably just pure AD because of his Q.
    BOTRK > Ghostblade > IE > PD > BT > Zerkers/Zephyr

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  12. #34052
    Quote Originally Posted by Sivalion View Post
    BOTRK > Ghostblade > IE > PD > BT > Zerkers/Zephyr

    2 shot enemy carries gg
    Get CC'ed once, die.

  13. #34053
    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    Get CC'ed once, die.
    Dead people can't CCs.

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    I've decided to ban out Yi in every ranked game I can now. Not because I don't know how to deal with him, but I can't trust my team to know how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CM Punk View Post
    I've had no problems with it personally. Granted I've played very sporadically over the last few days. Is it a consistent thing again? I've seen no login queues or heard any of my friends complain. Sure it wasn't just a server hiccup?
    It probably was a server hiccup, But it annoyed me to no end though. As it caused me to lose the game with no loss forgiven. It was going on for about 20 to 30 minutes. So yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivalion View Post
    BOTRK > Ghostblade > IE > PD > BT > Zerkers/Zephyr

    2 shot enemy carries gg
    SS instead. Q ramps up the shiv a lot.

  17. #34057
    Quote Originally Posted by LaReine View Post
    Tyvm!! Seem like very good suggestions. Are you ranked? You seem like you are.

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    It's ridiculous how my brother is on Yi. He just started playing and in week 2 of playing he was dominating on Yi his 2nd day buying him. Makes my Kass look like a little kid.
    Yi is currently (like Riot says) a pubstomper in low elo, and mediocre in high elo. As in, better people know how to handle him.
    I won a game with Yi simply by constantly pushing a lane while they were off chasing others, and only sending 1 back wasn't enough as Yi is an extreme dueller now.

    Also, the "thing" with LoL is: a lot of people know a lot of things, but can't necessarily apply them. Look at analysts/casters, they know a lot about the game, but not all of them are good at it. I myself don't play ranked, mostly normals, and do fairly well. But with a lot of games, including WoW, I have a lot of theoretical knowledge. Except with WoW I was a lot better at putting it to practice

    Not saying CM Punk isn't ranked (I have no idea) just that you can know what to do without actually being able to do it (very well) in the game

    My input on Nidalee is: AD is mostly dead with the nerfs to her cougar form, AP is still VERY strong. You play AP Nidalee by sieging the enemy with your long range spears (the further away, the more damage) as they can do up to ~70% of a carries HP if you get slightly ahead. And your catform is for kiting/assassinating, as you will be too squishy to go in close. You would win games by poking your enemy down BEFORE engaging, so this might be tricky on lower levels of play as they are always very eager to jump in
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    SS for sure, using Q (i dont have exact numbers) is like halfway to complete charge.

    I have been rushing BT or IE (depending on how fed) before BoTRK because of how hard he scales with AD.

    I have had games where I got a kill or two early, got an IE- and when the first team fight rolled around I alpha'd and killed their ADC and alpha'd again for a quadra.

    Absurd.

  19. #34059
    Quote Originally Posted by Boomcats View Post
    SS for sure, using Q (i dont have exact numbers) is like halfway to complete charge.

    I have been rushing BT or IE (depending on how fed) before BoTRK because of how hard he scales with AD.

    I have had games where I got a kill or two early, got an IE- and when the first team fight rolled around I alpha'd and killed their ADC and alpha'd again for a quadra.

    Absurd.
    There was a post on REddit not too long ago going over the theory in damage between BT and BotRK, also IE and SotD and some others. In the end, BT (and IE to some extent) seemed like the weaker choices.

    Also, I might be doing my promotional matches soon (at long last). What happens if I dodge here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hybr1d View Post
    Also, I might be doing my promotional matches soon (at long last). What happens if I dodge here?
    If you dodge in a promo then it's counted as a loss.

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