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    I will buy a SS if i'm playing Shen top though, since i'm already playing the support tanking initiator type of role for my team, wards and extra health is also useful.

    And moreever, your support in games isn't like your typical asian support buying nothing but sightstone and wards. usually they will only get 1 ruby ss, therefore my extra ss will help. However if i'm top, i won't upgrade the SS though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpoker View Post
    I will buy a SS if i'm playing Shen top though, since i'm already playing the support tanking initiator type of role for my team, wards and extra health is also useful.

    And moreever, your support in games isn't like your typical asian support buying nothing but sightstone and wards. usually they will only get 1 ruby ss, therefore my extra ss will help. However if i'm top, i won't upgrade the SS though.
    You might end up having to do that anyways because your support happens to be a Nidalee that only builds AP. Even then, a Sightstone will set you so far behind assuming you're not a support-ish champ like Nunu, or a Lee Sin.

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    God dang its hard to find a semi casual team for ranked >_< Every damn team that seems good is already full
    Dont bother with Ranked 5vs5 the matchmaking seems kinda borked.

    We had 1 Diamond, 1 Plat, 1 Gold and 2 Silvers and get matched against almost full Diamond teams in our FIRST GAMES on a new team. I'd understand the 5th matchmaking game being like that but the first one? Really? Beat Diamonds 5 times to get placed in Gold V, yay!

    Only good thing is that laning against diamond/high plat bot-lanes is really making me up my game as a Support :P Playing against Dia 1 Vayne and Plat 1 Tresh was an eyeopening experience to say the least. My yolo-que bot-lanes feel kinda easy after those games, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    You might end up having to do that anyways because your support happens to be a Nidalee that only builds AP. Even then, a Sightstone will set you so far behind assuming you're not a support-ish champ like Nunu, or a Lee Sin.
    Its ok, i run a shen top with teleport/flash. So i usually get quite a fair bit of assist gold from helping out in other lanes. That's where the 950 goes to and since i consider myself to be more of a support initiator role shen its fine for my built. Anyway late game, having more wards will never be a bad thing. especially if the jungler doesn't help to ward as well which i have no idea why.

    And most of the time, i can rarely get a 1v1 kill all by myself at top lane especially when im facing the likes of garen, renekton etc. So it just becomes a boring farmfest anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenfinn View Post
    Dont bother with Ranked 5vs5 the matchmaking seems kinda borked.
    Nope, it isn't. It matches you by the highest ranked player in your team. You had diamond player in your team, you get full diamond team against you. It would take too long to wait for "1 D, 1 P, , 1 G and 2 S" team to pop up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    Nope, it isn't. It matches you by the highest ranked player in your team. You had diamond player in your team, you get full diamond team against you. It would take too long to wait for "1 D, 1 P, , 1 G and 2 S" team to pop up.
    Well shit.

    That makes sense since it looks like our guys won the last 4 games (I was there for first win) during the night and got the team to Gold IV Our Diamond IV guy wasnt there for this team so from the looks of it they were matched against gold/plat players this time which equals easy wins

    Now to just get Gold in 3vs3 and YoloQue and I'll have Gold in all 3 brackets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenfinn View Post
    Well shit.

    That makes sense since it looks like our guys won the last 4 games (I was there for first win) during the night and got the team to Gold IV Our Diamond IV guy wasnt there for this team so from the looks of it they were matched against gold/plat players this time which equals easy wins

    Now to just get Gold in 3vs3 and YoloQue and I'll have Gold in all 3 brackets
    We tried to make our own 5v5 team with friends, but because we are 2 bronze, 2 silver and 1 diamond, we got placed against full diamond teams. Well, it's not that bad, because after little talk to some of them in after-game lobby, they said that they had a very long losing streaks . So, i don't really know.

    Also, from 3v3 perspective, the Yoricks ghools give you 5+3 gold now. I doubt riots thought about it when they did this, and Yorick won't be picked soon. Also, nerfing Wukong passive to the ground is way too much for 3v3 IMO. And they did wrong thing to "nerf" his ult cooldown, because, from my experience, i use my (Wu) ult only in chokes when fighting 3vX, so, having 10 seocnds more CD on level 3 ult (when enemy respawns like 50 seconds, and usually, one ace at level 16 with two survivors from your team makes a game) makes no difference. They should nerf his mana costs (mana regen in 3v3 map is buffed, that's why Wu is that strong here, he can poke enemy like twice as much), or mana regen, but not cooldowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpoker View Post
    I will buy a SS if i'm playing Shen top though, since i'm already playing the support tanking initiator type of role for my team, wards and extra health is also useful.
    Again, useless.

    That 975 could've been a head start to a spirit visage (kindlegem) or sunfire (giant's belt). Both offer more health and/or CDR. Shen needs those items to do what he is supposed to do: tank the entire friggin' team and split push till infinity (or the game ends).

    Long story short: stop buying Sightstone on anyone not Lee Sin or Support. You're wasting your money.

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    God I hate Lucian botlane. It's like your supporting half an AD carry really. Now having a Lucian use his only escape to engage a Leona isn't all that either I presume.

    Incoming mid Katarina week ftl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    God I hate Lucian botlane. It's like your supporting half an AD carry really. Now having a Lucian use his only escape to engage a Leona isn't all that either I presume.

    Incoming mid Katarina week ftl.
    Poor Lucian, loved his lore and his art but his kit and strength is just meh. Jinx on the other hand seems super strong right now on the PBE.

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    Really think Lucian is just fine.


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    For a few pages ago

    https://support.leagueoflegends.com/...rting-a-Player
    There is also a special report category which does not create a Tribunal case, but affects matchmaking instead:

    Unskilled Player - If you feel that a Summoner is not playing well - such as not last hitting, not using the right skills, having the wrong build, and having poor map awareness, you can report that player for being unskilled.
    Lucian is my go to AD right now. His poke is amazing when you learn to do it right.
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    Opinions on how to build new Olaf?

    Spirit Visage seems pretty core. Hexdrinker might be overkill in combo. Probably Randuin's as armour item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
    Opinions on how to build new Olaf?

    Spirit Visage seems pretty core. Hexdrinker might be overkill in combo. Probably Randuin's as armour item.
    I want to see how lane Olaf does with a Hydra and then full defense, but I've only been able to play one game so far and that was as a jungler. I was snowballing so I decided to buy an early phage so I could stick to people better considering their team was full of slippery champions like Ezreal. My end build was Ninja Tabis, Phage, Ancient Golem, Spirit Visage, and a Sunfire because the game was ending and I didn't have the gold to finish a Randuins from the Giant's Belt that I had.

    Felt fun to run down an Ezreal and dish out damage. The axe changes are huge and finally let Olaf run people down like he was meant to do. Not sold on him glowing red during his ult though.

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    Why would you build new Olaf any differently?

    Max CDR (SV+Shurelyas is win), Hexdrinker, Tabi, Randuins

    Just adjust build order based on lane opponent / who on the enemy team is strong. No AP Threat? Build Thornmail / Sunfire instead of Hexdrinker.

    Hydra is a complete waste of money.

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    He scales way more with AD than Health with the update. That's why.

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    Liking the Garen VU, I don't understand the changes to Judgement though, this is taken from the LoL wiki:

    "Judgment can critically strike, multiplying Judgment's AD ratio by half of Garen's critical strike damage modifier. "

    wtf does that mean and how is it any different from a normal crit
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    A normal crit is 200%. An IE crit is 250%.

    In the first case, Garen's Judgment would do 150% damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
    A normal crit is 200%. An IE crit is 250%.

    In the first case, Garen's Judgment would do 150% damage.
    so Judgement can crit, but for 1/2 the damage of a normal crit?
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