I guess we'll agree to disagree then. I don't feel the extra vision gained/prevented is as big of a deal especially in solo queue because most of the games I feel people don't take advantage of it. I've never lost a game and been like man if I had spammed Oracles/Wards/Pinks we would have had this easily. More than enough, I notice the extra damage. Maybe it's not as good for higher up play that people take advantage but low Diamond NA really isn't vision centric play and I feel the extra damage helps when you just have 1-2 useless team members because lolsoloqueue.
I think I'll just keep playing support and try to carry more maybe with zyra. I just hate it when I get games where within like 12 mins the score is 1-10 usually top or mid just dies so much like theres nothing that I can do about that and its been annoying trying to rank up when I get games like this I just want to get to gold, I'd like to get plat I'm pretty sure I'm capable of it I just need teammates that don't die so much at the start.
A lot of people do focus Zyra on lane if she's not going for tanky masteries/runes as without those she is incredibly squishy.
When I was still running 9/0/21 with offensive runes the few times I semi-lost my lane was when they had something like Taric/Leona + Ezreal or something. Taric just flash-stuns-shatters me for 50% of my HP while the Ezreal also instantly jumps on me and bursts away. Pretty much dead during the stun, even if I wasnt THAT badly out of position :P
Now that I run 1/13/16 masteries and HP quints + armor reds and yellows I can actually act as bait and make ballsy plays without the fear of getting insta-gibbed. I usually buy a Dorans Shield on my first back (unless we failed and got left really behind) so that I can out-trade their ADC relatively easy.... Though I dont buy it against stuff like Ezreal and Corki as a lot of their damage comes from abilities and not just AAs.
I guess you could go more offensive with 9/0/21 + AP runes + Kages instead of Philo if you're against a non-scary support like Janna/Soraka.
And as far as buying damage/defensive items instead of mass-wards/pinks/oracles... You can get away with fewer pinks/oracles at Bronze/Silver/low Gold as most Supports at that level dont ward THAT much. But it varies a lot game by game.
But as soon as I go play 5vs5 team-ranked against plats/diamonds I'm pretty much forced to use all my gold on Wards/Pinks/Oracles and even then it doesnt feel like I'm warding enough :P
And then theres times when it just happens constantly like in my case where I got 10 games worth of feeders and AFKers and went from 75LP in Silver 1 to 90 LP in Silver 2 That put me off from playing yolo-que for a while... Though I guess I'll have to heat up my engine again if I wanna get Gold in yolo-que before the season ends... Luckily got it covered in 5vs5 but still kinda want it in yolo-que as well.
Those 10 games made me rage so hard especially after being on a huge win-streak going from 0 LP Silver III to 75 LP Silver I in one weekend
Last edited by Drunkenfinn; 2013-10-14 at 06:20 AM.
who is keen to watch CJ frost vs SKT T1 tonight
also Cloudtempler retirement T.T
In other news, Aphromoo and Pobelter have been released from Curse. While a reason hasn't been stated for Aphro's release, Pobelter got released due to not being able to play League and attend grade school at the same time.
EDIT: Following up on the Curse roster changes, Cop is back on the main roster at ADC, and word is Quas will be the replacement for Pobelter.
Well ... I think it's time for Voyboy to sign up for Dig top lane trials. Pls.
What's the worst that can happen to you ...
The main thing that gets me about the CRS roster changes is that Aphromoo and Pobelter have a day to find an amateur team before rosters are locked for LCS relegation stuff. I don't want to judge without knowing all the facts, but from the outside it seems like a rather dick move to tell two players that they are on the team, and even update your website and have an announcement, then kick them stating they were trial members.
With that all said there are ton of assumptions and guesses in that paragraph though that could all be completely wrong. From an outsiders viewpoint though that's the way I see it and from a business perspective it's smart of Curse but really really shitty. Their stated reason was he couldn't live in the house but how did they expect a high school student to live in the house to begin with?
Last edited by refire; 2013-10-14 at 03:32 PM.
Just jumped from Silver IV to Silver II
I guess i might reach Gold V before the season ends after all. Admitedly it might have been more possible if i actually played more games to begin with. Played a total of 41 ranked games now since i started in...April? March? With several friends whining that i should play more ranked :P
The mermaid shall lead me to victory! ...unless some rusty scumbag takes her before i do, but that thankfully barely ever happens.
GL Tenhou in your quest for Gold before Hallowe'en.
I'm the opposite: I've played 126 ranked games and am thoroughly rooted to the bottom of Silver 5. I'll get Gold eventually, but probably not before the end of the season.
37 + (3*7) + (3*7)W/L/Death count: Wolf: 0/1/1 | Mafia: 0/5/5 | TPR: 0/2/2SK: 0/1/1 | VT: 1.5/3.5/5 | Cult: 1/0/1Legendary Overlooked
So I've done my research on Shaco recently (again) and I've noticed in one guide a new build that really works quite well. I've always started with Doran's Blade for the most part because it really is strong on Shaco. As I was reading through this guide it never had a single jungle item on it and I thought (well that's weird), told me to rush tiamat, finish berserkers greaves and ravenous hydra... Sorry if I'm behind on the meta but Ravenous Hydra is the shit on Shaco, you basically make your early game even better than you think it could be.
Ignore the shitty Darius and support Nidalee game please.
I'm not trying to say that Shaco is the new OP jungler but this build seriously, it's bullshit how good it is on Shaco.
EDIT: Weird, lolking doesn't show that one of those games only lasted 16 minutes but defaults games to 25 mins.
I'll take the sky any day.
Also the active on RH (or Tiamat) is just so damn good for dishing out early damage and Tiamat is nowhere near as expensive as rushing an IE.
I'll take the sky any day.