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    Riot Penguin was streaming just now. He made a Nami skin. Hasn't been upped yet, but do see a Lulu skin that wasn't there yet earlier today.

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    Anyone got the latest PBE changes?? i would love to see spirit stone passive changes
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    Alright, mods please don't infract me for this but as this is my 5000th post I'd like to write a few things down considering this is the major part of mmoc that I come too.

    Dear LoL section,

    You guys are awesome (even you Firebert and your Tri-Force Vlad build), I've had quite the time in here and I would like to say thank you to each and every one of you for making it fantastic. To start, I was a moderator here awhile back and that was probably the highlight of my time here posting on mmoc because I was more engaged with each person who posted here and outside of one mistake it was good. You guys seriously have one of the better mod teams from what I've seen and you only have three of them and are all highly intelligent people.

    Now I've been on mmoc since early 2009 and I posted here and there but I never really was to interested until they opened up the LoL section (posted in the LoL thread before that) and that's what got me going and when I started to really get productive so to speak. I've enjoyed talking to many of you as well as the occasional debates we have among each other. I'm a big fan of how controlled this section of mmoc is and the only trolls we get are usually people who aren't native to this area of mmoc. I can't tell you how much I'm grateful to be able to talk to anyone here and get something valuable out it, I feel spoiled because of it.

    Here's to another year of the LoL section on mmoc. In classic Duronos style (just call me Josh), YOU GUYS FUCKING ROCK!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulstrike View Post
    Anyone got the latest PBE changes?? i would love to see spirit stone passive changes

    From surrender @ 20, these are the last changes to the Spirit Stone. Been hearing something about this helping Poppy a lot. I am so tempted.

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    Spirit of the Ancient Golem

    • No longer grants health and mana regen
    • No longer has Unique Passive Maim.
    • Unique Passive - Butch now reads "Against monsters, deal 30% bonus damage and restore 8% of damage dealt as Health and 4% as mana ( half restoration effects fro AoE spells )"


    Spirit of the Elder Lizard

    • No longer grants health and mana regen
    • No longer has Unique Passive Maim.
    • Unique Passive - Butch now reads "Against monsters, deal 30% bonus damage and restore 8% of damage dealt as Health and 4% as mana ( half restoration effects fro AoE spells )"


    Spirit of the Spectral Wraith

    • No longer grants health and mana regen
    • No longer has Unique Passive Maim.
    • UNIQUE Passive - Spirit Drain now "Grants 2 ability power per large or epic monster kill ( max:30 ) [ NOTE: Reads as 40 AP and cap of 40 in air client item browser ]
    • Unique Passive - Butch now reads "Against monsters, deal 30% bonus damage and restore 8% of damage dealt as Health and 4% as mana ( half restoration effects fro AoE spells )"

    Source: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/12...be-update.html

  5. #38505
    What normal queues have different MMRs?
    I know that ranked soloq, ranked 3s and ranked 5s have all their own MMR, but I am confused about normal game MMR?

    I would like to play ranked only when I feel like I am in super good mood and ready to play for win.
    I would like to play normal summoner rift when I want to play as good as I can to learn, but I do not feel so focused I would like to go to ranked. (such as when I am sick or tired, it would be just raping my own elo to queue ranked then)
    I would like to play other normal queues mostly when I just wanna play, but not necessarily try very hard and goof around.

    But would queueing to other normal queues and playing poorly mean that also my normal summoner rift MMR drops?

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    Normals have MMR, same as all queues. However, it doesn't have leagues or promotion series. It's also not (much) affected by other queues. Ranked barely impacts your normal queue if the matchmaker doesn't have enough info to go on just yet.

    That's also the reason some people have a 30min+ queue for normal games.

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    You have normal MMR and ranked MMR (solo and team).

    I think normal MMR is all across the board meaning it affects all your games from blind pick, draft, dominion, ARAM, etc (normal modes). Ranked queues have their own 'individual' MMR.

    In ranked I get from S2 to G4 and in normal I can get from unrankeds to P1.
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    Never liked playing Shyvana... Then I got her in a ARAM and found her kinda fun.

    Just started playing her in normals and I really like her now, actually. Getting ready for Ranked with her soon. :P

    Also, just won a 4v5 fairly easily, because I stomped top as Shyv in a mirror matchup and our support won mid, since our mid never connected. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riboe View Post
    Never liked playing Shyvana... Then I got her in a ARAM and found her kinda fun.

    Just started playing her in normals and I really like her now, actually. Getting ready for Ranked with her soon. :P

    Also, just won a 4v5 fairly easily, because I stomped top as Shyv in a mirror matchup and our support won mid, since our mid never connected. lol.
    Normals are such a toss up due to how skewed the matches are. I've seen my team's support Sona with her coin item start beat a Zed in mid because ours never connected. I still don't know how it happened and I'm pretty sure that Zed felt bad.

    They should probably make it so the normal MMR gets at least a little influenced by your ranked MMR so that there isn't such a wide gap in skill difference every game.

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    Speaking of Shy on ARAM.



    By all means they had us dead to rights. They had all of our turrets down before we got a single of theirs. But somehow we pulled it out of our assess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz View Post
    Normals are such a toss up due to how skewed the matches are. I've seen my team's support Sona with her coin item start beat a Zed in mid because ours never connected. I still don't know how it happened and I'm pretty sure that Zed felt bad.

    They should probably make it so the normal MMR gets at least a little influenced by your ranked MMR so that there isn't such a wide gap in skill difference every game.
    As far as MMR goes - or at least ranking goes - their team was a full tier (5 divisions) higher when averaged out.

    They had a D2, D3, P2, PX, GX while we had a P3, P4, G5, SX, SX
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    On an unrelated note, I've gotten in gold recently and out of my past 5 games I've been mid I got no blue and no ganks mid. But I got ganked a minimum of 6 times in each game by the enemy jungler, twice in one game a 3 man gank . Dafuq is with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mini98 View Post
    On an unrelated note, I've gotten in gold recently and out of my past 5 games I've been mid I got no blue and no ganks mid. But I got ganked a minimum of 6 times in each game by the enemy jungler, twice in one game a 3 man gank . Dafuq is with this.
    From a Jungler perspective - Blue isn't a birth right of a mid champ. If I feel the mid doesn't really need blue and/or they are playing badly, I refuse to give it to them. If they have died from ganks then it's quite likely they are just gonna be camped by the enemy jungler, giving them blue runs a risk of them passing it onto the enemy team for free. Sometimes I prefer to just sit bottom for easy double kills and control of their blue, my red and dragon, so top and mid get neglected.

    Pretty much, if you have died solo or by ganks a couple of times before the 2nd/3rd blue, you ain't getting it and I most likely won't help your lane unless I know I can secure a kill. But that's just me.

    If you have been playing well though, then meh, must just be greedy junglers or they are on skype with other lanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakazam View Post
    From a Jungler perspective - Blue isn't a birth right of a mid champ. If I feel the mid doesn't really need blue and/or they are playing badly, I refuse to give it to them. If they have died from ganks then it's quite likely they are just gonna be camped by the enemy jungler, giving them blue runs a risk of them passing it onto the enemy team for free. Sometimes I prefer to just sit bottom for easy double kills and control of their blue, my red and dragon, so top and mid get neglected.

    Pretty much, if you have died solo or by ganks a couple of times before the 2nd/3rd blue, you ain't getting it and I most likely won't help your lane unless I know I can secure a kill. But that's just me.

    If you have been playing well though, then meh, must just be greedy junglers or they are on skype with other lanes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
    Ranked barely impacts your normal queue if the matchmaker doesn't have enough info to go on just yet.

    That's also the reason some people have a 30min+ queue for normal games.
    I wouldn't be that sure about this. Most of the time I have ~15 minute normal game ques with nearly 2400 normal games played. And even then I seem to get matched against plat/diamond players (which is awesome). And then if I que with 2 of my friends we generally have to sit in the que for ~20 minutes in peak times and ~40 in the evening (and get diamond-challenger players, which is even more awesome).

    It seems to count your ranked MMR in there somewhere, somehow, and generally make "even" games based on what I'd guess is your normal MMR + ranked MMR.

    Although there have been cases where the match making system goes on a rampage and makes a game where the opposing team has 3 high diamonds, a challenger and 1 high plat (everyone but the plat was qued together), against me, 2 of my friends (diamonds), a random diamond player, and then a low silver player with low normal wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakazam View Post
    From a Jungler perspective - Blue isn't a birth right of a mid champ.
    And this is why I play Vladimir mid, such that my Jungler can have an easier time and no arguments about blue buff can ever start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakazam View Post
    From a Jungler perspective - Blue isn't a birth right of a mid champ.
    It generally is. A mid not having blue can mean his/her doom in lane. Not giving the first and second one is fine but after that it's pretty bad if you don't. Even so, the second blue is usually the most important lane wise due to the pressure and clear wave a champion can get with it, so not giving that one, to me, is a really bad idea for a jungler to have.
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    Mid with athene does not require blue buff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmokri View Post
    Mid with athene does not require blue buff.
    By the time people finish their Athene's, a blue is already pretty irrelevant because they'll be out of lane ganking other lanes, doing drag and establishing map pressure.
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    Blue does more than give mana regen. The CDR is needed. 20 seconds off an ult makes a huge difference in kill potential.

    However, there's a bunch of junglers currently streaming about going from bronze to challenger or whatever and their sole goal is to carry the game solo. As such, they believe they can do better with the blue buff than the mid. They might not be wrong about that, but it gives a very skewed picture for the people watching it hoping to learn.

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