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Peoples thoughts on who is better to both support AND mid, Karma or Lulu? (i have enough RP for 1 of them at the minute).
Lulu is stronger mid than karma is, but karma is stronger support than lulu is (at least in lane). Either work fine in both positions, but lulu is probably slightly stronger overall.
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I can't believe Pwyff is getting death threats over the Pantheon bug fix. That's just out of hand.
I mean, League has a pretty toxic community, but directing all of your anger and hatred at one guy (the wrong guy, even) just because he takes the time to talk to players is pretty stupid.
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Shit's serious yo, think about all Panth players, think about NB3, oh lord.
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Did Jax get buffed or something? He felt hella stronger compared to the last time i laned against him (which was like 3-4 months ago).
Might just be my imagination though, since i havent played toplane in ages.
Yeah i dont like him either. He became a freaking raidboss with botrk, TF and a giant's belt. Ended up winning anyways though, since he didnt really do much in teamfights for some reason.
Jax doesn't really contribute in teamfights. He's better off splitpushing/forcing duels, or running clean up. If he jumps in after the initiate, he still gets blown up, and his peel is pretty lacking. However, 1v1 or even 2v1, he's a monster.
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I'm back on the throwing spree, there isn't a worse feeling in the world than to throw a game you've have a lead early with stupid mistakes late game
I dont get the Jax ban obsession either. I dont think Ive ever banned him as theres no reason to. I see a lot more champions flat out take over more than Jax does. Especially when top lane (imo) isnt that impactful these days. Ya he can jungle but Id be a lot more scared of Warwick, Udyr, etc than Jax
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Who are some good top lanes to take when selecting first (besides Renekton/Ryze). Cause the ones I play normally (Trundle/Nasus) are not smart unless you know what your opponent is first. Is there anyone else thats pretty safe like maybe Rumble Darius Fiora Riven? I wouldve put Jax but hes banned 99% of the time
Shyvana is the safest you can get top lane. Top laners are actually pretty counter dependent. You either get the late game monster that gets demolished early by Renekton (Nasus, Jax), the early game champ that falls off late (Lee Sin, Renekton) or the semi late game champ that can play incredibly safe for the majority of the game (Shyvana, Ryze)
Shyvana and Trundle are pretty safe picks. Shyvana tends to get pushed into her turret early, but you quickly scale up and become tanky from your passive while doing stupid amounts of damage. She does well against renekton and can farm from a distance with her E if she does start to get behind from jungle pressure or something. Though she doesn't do as well in lanes where the other person has ranged autos and strong disengage, like kennen.
Trundle destroys almost everyone in even 1 on 1 fights, in particular bruisers. With his ult and Q he just out bruisers them and it's not even a fair fight. I don't play him as much as shyvana, but I would think he would do poorly against people with ranged autos if they harassed well.
I wouldn't really say Darius is a safe pick for top lane. He is a huge lane bully that out damages basically everything but he has some huge flaws. He lacks any form of mobility and is a huge gank magnet. However, his damage is absurd in the early game and if you build a bit of damage he plays a bit like an assassin in the mid game. The late game is not as kind to him though. If you are not farmed or have kills you become a flash apprehend damage sponge bot. His late game relies almost completely on having an advantage over the other person and he will be outscaled by most top laners. That being said, it is oh so very easy to crush people in lane with him.
I would recommend shyvana though. She is very safe, scales pretty well and is an all around good pick .
What about Fiora? Ive been interested in learning her but I dont wanna learn someone that is only successful in certain matchups/comps. I want someone that can dominate top lane somewhat consistently.
And I think Trundle gets countered pretty hard by Teemo, even moreso than Nasus imo. I wouldnt pick Trundle against other APs like Elise, Vlad, Rumble either.
If you can play her, AD Nidalee top is a bitch to deal with for pretty much anyone. She's not too hard but you're kind of useless to the team if the game ever gets to the team fight phase. Also if you first pick her most people will assume it's Nid mid and won't worry about trying to pick someone that counters her. I honestly don't even really know what counters her since she punishes a lot of melee tops and once you're 6 you can safely disengage from their gap closers with cougar bullshit. Frozen Fist, Randuins, Spirit Visage are all good items on her. CJ Flame used to build BotRK on her too which seemed like it could be cool for 1v1ing. Mainly, you'll split push all game. But overall it really doesn't matter what you play as long as you don't lose your lane on a regular basis. And even if you do, as long as you learn something from it and keep a level head you'll improve. There's so many people who play primarily 1 champion and just spam games on them no matter the matchup. The more you learn about the champ, the easier counter picks become. Also Jayce is another safe pick you can go with if you're comfortable playing that type of champion. I woulden't focus too much on counter picks unless you're blind picking Fizz or something. You eventually just learn how to beat them and it can be too mentally taxing to worry about every game. Put's you behind from the getgo if you think you're gonna lose based on what champ they picked rather than if they are good at the game or not!
tldr: Jayce, Aatrox, AD Nidalee
Last edited by Zeoni; 2014-05-18 at 07:20 AM.