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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftero View Post
    Yeah, I'm more used to the "run into them and screw them up"-kinda style Taric and Alistar offers, but Sona was a nice change of pace.
    That's exactly what I'm like and it feels nicer with Taric because I feel like because of that stun and the way I play him that I can actually help the team win more than any other support because we shut down the carry.

    I just had a game as Taric (ranked) and my friend was with me as Ashe and we just dominated a Draven and Alistar in the lane which is weird because a Draven should have given us a harder time.
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    I mostly play Janna since she is the support that I feel is the most consistent throughout the game. You can make plays and make up for your carrys stupidity in bot lane. Around mid game I just rush shurelyas and walk around trying to save teammates getting caught aswell as gank mid lane a lot with my cc.

    Taric is quite boring but I prefer him over Sona since he isn´t so outrageously squishy. Sona is so unforgiving if you get caught, and she isn´t easy to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftero View Post
    Ok, so I have a couple champions to talk about, which I have underestimated...

    Firstly, Riven. I've not met many good Riven players, so I always thought she was pretty strong, but with incredibly short range and easy to harass. Boy, did I find that wrong today. I went as Cho'gath against Riven in top, and she knew exactly what she was doing.

    I was almost too scared to go last-hit because she was so aggressive, taking good bits of health every time I got too close. She got a couple kills on me first, but eventually I managed to get some feed as well, and won over her in duels (barely). But she simply amazed me, I had never thought she could be that strong, and she completely dominated me in the lane-phase. I praised her in-game and after the match, because she was just damn good.
    Riven is a lane-dominant champion, if you lose your lane and get no feed from the other lanes, you'll fall off fast.
    Cho'gath isn't such a great champion to deal with Riven as his true damage comes at level 6 and he cant get his +hp before that level, which leaves Cho'gath open for low level harrass, which Riven is good at (especially when she gets her Q+W+E at level 3).
    Which means that Cho'gath WILL get stomped by a good Riven player (Rule of thumb; if Riven has a Wriggles Lantern, she probably sucks)

    Riven CAN win any lane, but with some champions she has to try harder than others (Teemo, Kayle, Kennen, Olaf, Garen/Garenv2.0, AKA Darius)
    So if its Draft Pick and you see a Riven just pick one of those champions and buy a Ninja Tabi or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftero View Post
    Ok, so I have a couple champions to talk about, which I have underestimated...

    Firstly, Riven. I've not met many good Riven players, so I always thought she was pretty strong, but with incredibly short range and easy to harass. Boy, did I find that wrong today. I went as Cho'gath against Riven in top, and she knew exactly what she was doing.

    I was almost too scared to go last-hit because she was so aggressive, taking good bits of health every time I got too close. She got a couple kills on me first, but eventually I managed to get some feed as well, and won over her in duels (barely). But she simply amazed me, I had never thought she could be that strong, and she completely dominated me in the lane-phase. I praised her in-game and after the match, because she was just damn good.
    Back on topic, I do that all the time. Most of the rivens I fight solo top are ok, but nothing special. Then I get too aggressive and I get gibbed. She just does a lot of burst that I always forget she can do. That and she is cd based and has no resource. When I'm j4 top its really annoying because she will start to out mana me (you know, since she doesn't have mana). Though it's not as bad when I'm rumble since he is also a cd champion.

    I find that I lose to riven a lot actually. Especially as rumble. I abuse her a little bit then she gets some levels and I get way too cocky or something. idk, I don't solo top very much.

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    Anyone been watching the MLG summer event today?

    Curse just did absolutely terribly against TSM, who they (TSM) got creamed by Blaze's aggressive tower pushing strategy earlier in the tourney, and then TSM adopted that strategy to go 3-0 on Curse.

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    did they give a reason for ruining the Proving Grounds ARAM map?

    single nexus tower is so shit........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    Anyone been watching the MLG summer event today?

    Curse just did absolutely terribly against TSM, who they (TSM) got creamed by Blaze's aggressive tower pushing strategy earlier in the tourney, and then TSM adopted that strategy to go 3-0 on Curse.
    Watched a bit of it, got amazed by that Korean team going 3-0 on Team Black from the situations where it looked like koreans are going to loose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kseux View Post
    Watched a bit of it, got amazed by that Korean team going 3-0 on Team Black from the situations where it looked like koreans are going to loose
    Black is playing with 2 subs, so not much was expected. Blaze is strong, they wont he last OGN and are looking just as solid this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reverendball View Post
    did they give a reason for ruining the Proving Grounds ARAM map?

    single nexus tower is so shit........

    Ye, the positioning for melee champs was really awkward to not get hit by both turrets if they drew aggro. That's the reasoning at least. They'd look into it though.

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    Seeing alot of Chos atm. Have been in game with 3 and they all did pretty good. He is a fantastic tank I must say.

    Also I have noticed this trend, people don't really pick tanks. All they want is a bruiser and build them dpsish O.o getting Triforce and Rylai/Frozen Mallet. Then going BT and IE. It's becoming a nuisance. I have to pick tank all the time.

    Also on Tris, what will be the last dps item you would get? I go for an extra BT, getting 1.1k crits from Bersekers/IE/BT/PD/LW/BT combo. I know the last item should be defensive, but games were I know the team is capable enough to defend me so I can nuke people down, I get a dps item. Not sure if BT is the best item or not.

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    I don't get a last DPS item on Trist, unless it's Frozen Mallet, which I only get if my team is far enough ahead that I don't have to worry about any major opponents (other than possibly some true damage folk). It's actually quite sick on her, as it will pretty much ensure people will never be able to kite or dive you.

    boots -> double doran's or pickaxe + vamp sceptre instead of second doran's -> finish boots -> Infinity Edge -> Zeal -> Either finish PD or Last Whisper -> grab whichever I didn't get of the last two -> finish Bloodthirster.

    Add appropriate defensive item at appropriate time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterisbest View Post
    Seeing alot of Chos atm. Have been in game with 3 and they all did pretty good. He is a fantastic tank I must say.

    Also I have noticed this trend, people don't really pick tanks. All they want is a bruiser and build them dpsish O.o getting Triforce and Rylai/Frozen Mallet. Then going BT and IE. It's becoming a nuisance. I have to pick tank all the time.
    Cho was always strong, just unreliable. Now that Rupture has a definite timer, it's a lot easy to hit so you notice them doing a lot better. The new legendary skin helps too.

    I've also noticed the bruiser trend, since it keeps me from playing something other than a tank in the jungle. A little annoying, but it's got me playing Skarner and Cho'Gath again so I don't mind.

    Not much help on the Trist side since I don't play her often and the only carry I play that actually makes it to late game is Kog'Maw, so I buy a Madreds if I feel I don't need the defensive item.

    So yeah, I'm playing Skarner again. I always loved him and now that I'm playing him again I'm going to try to perfect my Wit's End Skarner build order. I feel he does better and more consistent damage with Wit's End since his spells come up that much faster. It also means I never go into a team fight without my ult.

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    Speaking of bruisers, I just bought Volibear (mainly to make bear puns in chat) and he rocks so much! I hardly ever see him in games, but the games I just played I ended was 12/4/22 (duo top with Teemo) and 8/2/6 (they surrendered at 20) as solo top. a lot of fun to play and damn is he tough as nails, plus the damage he does to carries is pretty lol-worthy. Q -> R -> E -> W and they're pretty much dead in a second or two

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    Not getting a defensive item on an AD carry is the worst thing you can ever do. If you can survive a teamfight as you say without a defensive item, you´ll win the teamfight regardless if you have 2 BTs or not. At that point in the game one single misstake will lose you the game. I see so many AD carrys throw the game because they feel all god mode so they buy another PD, then they get caught in a teamfight and throw the game. ALWAYS get a defensive item.

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    QSS or GA are amazing adc items. If I recall correctly, QSS gets rid of Exhaust and other debuffs, ultimately making it better than any damage item you'll be able to pickup. If it doesn't get rid of Exhaust then I'm sorry for misleading. If you're just 100% committed to damage, a stacked Bloodthirster will give you the most output, Frozen Mallet probably the most uptime on champions. I've wondered about getting a Trinity Force on her too. Black Cleaver can be a nice addition if you feel the other team is super tanky and need more ArP but I'm not quite positive how attack speed stacks/falls off.

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    Gratz Axethor on moderator status. I'm sure you have been promoted to lead pimp of the moderators as well.

    Anyways, I have a question regarding roles in ranked teams. I know how to play all roles but should I focus on 2 main roles and my teammates the same?
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    If I'm doing really well on ranged AD, I like to pick up the GA after I finish the IE/PD combo. It also really helps if someone else on your team is doing pretty well too. So if you get focused, the other person has time to do some damage, and then you come back too.

    I prefer the GA over a QSS, but there are some situations where the QSS is superior. Say if they have a WW or a malz, or a skarner. Something like that. Or if you are getting spam exhausted every fight. I don't really like frozen mallet on ranged ADs, but I see how it could go really well on tristana. I think I saw Cop build it on her in a tourny sometime. Worked pretty well, but he still got dived every fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    Gratz Axethor on moderator status. I'm sure you have been promoted to lead pimp of the moderators as well.

    Anyways, I have a question regarding roles in ranked teams. I know how to play all roles but should I focus on 2 main roles and my teammates the same?
    When I started I had three roles I trusted myself in, with the other two being playable but certainly not the best. Having two main roles should work well and if what I've gone through is any indication you will eventually become proficient in any role. You will still have a best and worst role (jungle and support respectively for me) but the gap will be small enough that it doesn't really matter anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    When I started I had three roles I trusted myself in, with the other two being playable but certainly not the best. Having two main roles should work well and if what I've gone through is any indication you will eventually become proficient in any role. You will still have a best and worst role (jungle and support respectively for me) but the gap will be small enough that it doesn't really matter anymore.
    I was just wondering because I heard that people do that and I thought it was better if you focused on 2 roles mostly because then you get better at that role and the team is more efficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    I was just wondering because I heard that people do that and I thought it was better if you focused on 2 roles mostly because then you get better at that role and the team is more efficient.
    Yeah. The idea is if your good at two roles it's likely that you will get one of them and everyone will have a role they are good at and can play. Since you are all playing in comfortable roles you have a greater chance at winning.

    I wanted to be safe and got good at three roles, but still ended up playing my two inferior roles. It happened often enough that I decided to get better at the remaining two or at least find a champ I could play well. It's how I discovered I was good at Kog'Maw for AD Carry, and Leona and Lulu for Support. Now, I play Kog a lot and while I still avoid support I can at least play it on multiple champs and expect to win a game.

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