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    Huh...got a friendly recommendation from another player. :P

    Was playing Riven.

    The abilities are just fun. The shield dash is Wowie!

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    Well, I'm noticing a definite difference in a lot of players attitudes since the Honor system. I didn't think it would be a huge difference, but I've just had probably the best game of my life. My team weren't assholes when it came to the others surrendering, no "gg easy" or shit like that. The enemy team weren't shitehawks about it either, they just said GGWP and picked out myself and a Malphite as the key parts of our team. Left with 3 honors, 1 for teamwork, one for helpful (gave our AD carry a lot of advice) and one for honorable opponent.


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    Is there any particular role that's best for bot "lane" in dominion? Every game a friend of ours will just yell over and over how tanks/support are supposed to be bot lane while everyone else goes top. I know it's normally 1 bot, 4 top, but doesn't seem right that tanks should be down there, or support for that matter. I'd say tanks go top for the initial rush for the top base, while a good pusher or something goes bot to hold them back down there, but that's just my guess.

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    So why does Xin Zhao not see a lot of play time? His burst consists of a gap closer, a AS steroid, knockup, AoE knockback. He has sustain and gets tanky with his ult too. Also the song "Be a Man" fits him perfectly. Only downside I see to him is that he will fall off when everyone has full item builds, but that doesn't happen a lot and many champions have that problem.

    He is amazing at 1v1 though so he seems pretty good for top lane. Burst and knockup seems like you would have an easy time winning trades against most champions.

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    Oh there's plenty of Xins out there, but I think Kha'Zix and Rengar might have overshadowed him for a while. Also there are other viable picks for jungle (Amumu, Alistar, Shyvana, Udyr and much moar.)

    If everyone plays him, there's a problem. If nobody plays him, there's a problem, and with Xin it's in the middle, he's fine after the rework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz View Post
    So why does Xin Zhao not see a lot of play time? His burst consists of a gap closer, a AS steroid, knockup, AoE knockback. He has sustain and gets tanky with his ult too. Also the song "Be a Man" fits him perfectly. Only downside I see to him is that he will fall off when everyone has full item builds, but that doesn't happen a lot and many champions have that problem.

    He is amazing at 1v1 though so he seems pretty good for top lane. Burst and knockup seems like you would have an easy time winning trades against most champions.
    He's still lacking in the escape department, and he needs to get fed/farmed at least somewhat, or else he'll be in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by personn5 View Post
    Is there any particular role that's best for bot "lane" in dominion? Every game a friend of ours will just yell over and over how tanks/support are supposed to be bot lane while everyone else goes top. I know it's normally 1 bot, 4 top, but doesn't seem right that tanks should be down there, or support for that matter. I'd say tanks go top for the initial rush for the top base, while a good pusher or something goes bot to hold them back down there, but that's just my guess.
    Needs to be very strong at a few things:
    1) Pushing (see: Yorick)
    2) 1v1 (see: Jax)
    3) 1v2 (see: Heimerdinger)

    What exactly you put there depends a bit on what you want to do as well.

    There's several tier lists for Dominion. Take a look at those.

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    I've seen a lot of Teemo's go bot in Dominion and do alright. Same with Jax and Olaf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by personn5 View Post
    Is there any particular role that's best for bot "lane" in dominion? Every game a friend of ours will just yell over and over how tanks/support are supposed to be bot lane while everyone else goes top. I know it's normally 1 bot, 4 top, but doesn't seem right that tanks should be down there, or support for that matter. I'd say tanks go top for the initial rush for the top base, while a good pusher or something goes bot to hold them back down there, but that's just my guess.
    Pre Jayce the best early bot laners out there were Riven, Malz and Urgoth. None of them are tanks/supports, your friend is wrong. There is NO sense in sending support to solo non-pooterss task, no sense at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akts View Post
    Pre Jayce the best early bot laners out there were Riven, Malz and Urgoth. None of them are tanks/supports, your friend is wrong. There is NO sense in sending support to solo non-pooterss task, no sense at all.
    That's what I'm thinking. When I play janna, I'm great at getting points they ignore, but everyone runs off and I HAVE to get bot or we won't get it. Then the games I don't go bot, he yells at our tanks to go down there, seems like a complete waste. The entire enemy team's damage is going top, why would you NOT want the tank up there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by personn5 View Post
    That's what I'm thinking. When I play janna, I'm great at getting points they ignore, but everyone runs off and I HAVE to get bot or we won't get it. Then the games I don't go bot, he yells at our tanks to go down there, seems like a complete waste. The entire enemy team's damage is going top, why would you NOT want the tank up there?
    Get Zilean for that task. You will be better both as roamer and botlane pusher (bombs>gale). Janna is more teamfight/counterroamer oriented.
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    Getting some strong appreciation for Irelia again, going with a Tri Force build, armor boots, Maw and then stacking any AD I can. Hurts like a truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farolok View Post
    Getting some strong appreciation for Irelia again, going with a Tri Force build, armor boots, Maw and then stacking any AD I can. Hurts like a truck.
    I like to go tri force then mogs->atmas/frozen heart, both in the end, then get some mr and proceed to do something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    I like to go tri force then mogs->atmas/frozen heart, both in the end, then get some mr and proceed to do something else.
    So far I haven't really had to, I've been up against fairly poor teams recently which is fortunate. I've just been making up builds as I go, basing everything on my top lane paring first of course then switching around from there. I had enough farm and gold saved in the middle of my last match I had the opportunity to switch from magic res boots to armor boots, seeing as their only AP was Kennen who was already being pounded into oblivion at mid lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farolok View Post
    So far I haven't really had to, I've been up against fairly poor teams recently which is fortunate. I've just been making up builds as I go, basing everything on my top lane paring first of course then switching around from there. I had enough farm and gold saved in the middle of my last match I had the opportunity to switch from magic res boots to armor boots, seeing as their only AP was Kennen who was already being pounded into oblivion at mid lol.
    If you're snowballing hard, instead of going warmogs, I would probably go brutalizers or maybe wit's end, maybe wit's end, then proceed with mogs/frozen heart->atmas/mr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farolok View Post
    Getting some strong appreciation for Irelia again, going with a Tri Force build, armor boots, Maw and then stacking any AD I can. Hurts like a truck.
    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    I like to go tri force then mogs->atmas/frozen heart, both in the end, then get some mr and proceed to do something else.
    Warmog's+Atma's is a really outdated build. I wouldn't advise it on anyone these days, but on Irelia it's just a poor choice to begin with.

    Trinity Force and Wit's End are CORE on Irelia. You can't live without Sheen, and more attack speed means more true damage from Hiten Style. Most of your damage will be coming from Hiten Style, so building AD over attack speed is a bad investment.

    Where you go from there depends on the situation and your own preference, but I like GA in almost all situations. If you have an early gp5 item (Philo/HoG) you can also upgrade that. Everything after Trinity Force/Wit's End/GA I consider a luxury which you shouldn't count on getting. If you do get that far, you will want to maximise survivability. There is absolutely no need to get more damage.
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    Pretty much agree'd with Alaitoc on Irelia build, anything with AP up top will either be double Gp5 (if I think it'll be a farm lane or I can beat them with double Gp5) into Wits End straight away, then followed by Tri-force GA. AD'ish will be Gp5 again if I can get em into Phage, complete the Tri-force, then a Wits into GA. There are lots of viable items on Irelia, AS is pretty good, MS is good, CDR isnt bad, tankyness in general isnt bad so you get a lot of choice for the last few items. You can kinda build to counter whoever the biggest threat on their team is really, its good fun.

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