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    I have been playing Vayne, in dominion, with a different ad carry build now.

    Boots>Tri force> Wit's End>Boots>Kitae's Bloodrazor>BT>I.E./Last Whisper, then I seel wit's end for a more defensive iten like G.A.

    I must say, I like this build a lot. Yes, I lack a lot more dmg at the beginning of the game but it increases a lot through out the game, but I still would lack damage compared to an AD carry build, but the build is fun and it gives you more survivability, I don't know, but since it's domi, it's okay and I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    I have been playing Vayne, in dominion, with a different ad carry build now.

    Boots>Tri force> Wit's End>Boots>Kitae's Bloodrazor>BT>I.E./Last Whisper, then I seel wit's end for a more defensive iten like G.A.

    I must say, I like this build a lot. Yes, I lack a lot more dmg at the beginning of the game but it increases a lot through out the game, but I still would lack damage compared to an AD carry build, but the build is fun and it gives you more survivability, I don't know, but since it's domi, it's okay and I like it.
    Good you're having fun, but that build is pretty horrible.

    Standard Boots/Prospectors/Pots -> Sanguine Blade -> PD -> LW then defense. Wit's End is a waste, Tri is too expensive for the stats it brings. You're wasting a whole lot of money on shit you don't need. You already have Bolts, so why go for a Bloodrazor when you essentially have a True Damage version of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurdiern View Post
    Good you're having fun, but that build is pretty horrible.

    Standard Boots/Prospectors/Pots -> Sanguine Blade -> PD -> LW then defense. Wit's End is a waste, Tri is too expensive for the stats it brings. You're wasting a whole lot of money on shit you don't need. You already have Bolts, so why go for a Bloodrazor when you essentially have a True Damage version of it?
    I know it's not a good build, but I'm kinda sick of always going the same build, and I can actually afford this build in Dominion since I don't have to farm hard, and it's easy if you go bot because you can farm.

    Also, if I don't go that weird build, I usually buy boots, 2 pots, prospectors>lifesteal>boots again, either I.E. or Sanguine Blade(depends really)>PD>G.A./Sash>L.W.>damage item.

    But I have been doing tri force and that because I want to do other builds too. I'm not exactly lacking damage, not at all, but it's fun to see your sheen procs doing 1.3k crit damage if you have I.E. and a Sanguine Blade, and you get a lot of AS too because of Wit's End and the Kitae's Bloodrazor, and I love having a lot of AS so I love to see Vayne shooting her arrows pretty fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    I know it's not a good build, but I'm kinda sick of always going the same build, and I can actually afford this build in Dominion since I don't have to farm hard, and it's easy if you go bot because you can farm.

    Also, if I don't go that weird build, I usually buy boots, 2 pots, prospectors>lifesteal>boots again, either I.E. or Sanguine Blade(depends really)>PD>G.A./Sash>L.W.>damage item.

    But I have been doing tri force and that because I want to do other builds too. I'm not exactly lacking damage, not at all, but it's fun to see your sheen procs doing 1.3k crit damage if you have I.E. and a Sanguine Blade, and you get a lot of AS too because of Wit's End and the Kitae's Bloodrazor, and I love having a lot of AS so I love to see Vayne shooting her arrows pretty fast.
    Well there really is only one build for AD's. It's just the way items work in this game. Like you can go a different route, but you're just gimping yourself and your teammates by picking a less efficient and effective build. If you want AS, get PD and not a Wit's End or Bloodrazer. If you want efficient damage, get a IE or BT, not a Tri.

    If you want different builds, pick up someone like Ezreal who can be played multiple ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurdiern View Post
    Well there really is only one build for AD's. It's just the way items work in this game. Like you can go a different route, but you're just gimping yourself and your teammates by picking a less efficient and effective build. If you want AS, get PD and not a Wit's End or Bloodrazer. If you want efficient damage, get a IE or BT, not a Tri.

    If you want different builds, pick up someone like Ezreal who can be played multiple ways.
    I know, but I don't think I'm hurting my team by going with this not so common build. So far I have already went two games with her, with this build. In both games, both teams were very balanced, everyone was playing good, and I honestly don't think I would do better if I had an AD's build, I mean I would do better in terms of damage, but that's it I think.

    And I think Vayne can build like Ezreal. Vayne's source of dmg is from her auto attacks, not exactly her true damage, so going Try Force, like Ez, is okay I think, but this is in Dominion and like I said, there's free farm and expensive builds there aren't that expensive.
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    Vayne works ridiculously well with tri-force, its in no way a waste of gold on her. Shes a burst AD and tri just adds to that, if you can go around dueling on her and grab a tri-force you'll be unstoppable.

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    On the note of only 1 - 2 effective AD Builds, I wanted to ask if anybody has read anywhere if Riot will be adding a greater variety of APc and ADc items. I dunno about you guys but Im getting pretty sick of running the same builds with only a variation in one or two items.

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    It will be great to see more items, Riot are pretty good at adding interesting new items that people actually use so Im reckoning it'll allow us to mix up builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanjori View Post
    Vayne works ridiculously well with tri-force, its in no way a waste of gold on her. Shes a burst AD and tri just adds to that, if you can go around dueling on her and grab a tri-force you'll be unstoppable.
    If I was playing her in SR, Tri force as a last item is something really good, the extra speed, crit and as, the sheen proc is just OP, and the slow and more hp is also good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Silent View Post
    On the note of only 1 - 2 effective AD Builds, I wanted to ask if anybody has read anywhere if Riot will be adding a greater variety of APc and ADc items. I dunno about you guys but Im getting pretty sick of running the same builds with only a variation in one or two items.
    I think Riot will be implementing a lot of new itens, and will also remove some, in the next season, but I don't have a source for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanjori View Post
    Vayne works ridiculously well with tri-force, its in no way a waste of gold on her. Shes a burst AD and tri just adds to that, if you can go around dueling on her and grab a tri-force you'll be unstoppable.
    There are better (and far cheaper) items that you can buy for Vayne. Not sure how this is in Dominion though. Barely ever play that, nor do I care to min/max when playing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rampant Rabbit View Post
    There are better (and far cheaper) items that you can buy for Vayne. Not sure how this is in Dominion though. Barely ever play that, nor do I care to min/max when playing it.
    Well, like I said before, in Dominion it's very viable because there's free gold, so to speak, and in SR, you can't afford to go Tri force because you're delaying your BT/I.E. and PD and a defensive item, I think, but it's still viable late game if you can afford it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    Well, like I said before, in Dominion it's very viable because there's free gold, so to speak, and in SR, you can't afford to go Tri force because you're delaying your BT/I.E. and PD and a defensive item, I think, but it's still viable late game if you can afford it.
    It does not matter free gold or no free gold. If you spend it less efficient it means you get less dps out of your gold.
    Prospectors > Zeal > IE > PD > SB or LB depending on enemy comp > GA. At this point you should win the game. If not, LW or PD depending on comp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akts View Post
    It does not matter free gold or no free gold. If you spend it less efficient it means you get less dps out of your gold.
    Prospectors > Zeal > IE > PD > SB or LB depending on enemy comp > GA. At this point you should win the game. If not, LW or PD depending on comp.
    Well, like I said, I just want to do different builds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    Well, like I said, I just want to do different builds.
    Not quite the point of what I was saying though. By all means, go ahead. It's just Dominion anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rampant Rabbit View Post
    Not quite the point of what I was saying though. By all means, go ahead. It's just Dominion anyway.
    I know. The build I was doing is crappy and lacks damage compared to a "normal" build, I know all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanjori View Post
    It will be great to see more items, Riot are pretty good at adding interesting new items that people actually use so Im reckoning it'll allow us to mix up builds.
    >Tenacity items.
    >Ionic
    >Locket


    Yes, very...great. I mean they did good with Athene's but that's mostly because it's actually a big item. People don't buy small items for a reason.

    (I didn't add Morello's because frankly it might be sort of useful maybe in some situation sometime but I'd still say I pretty much never see it over DFG)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycoris View Post
    >Tenacity items.
    >Ionic
    >Locket


    Yes, very...great. I mean they did good with Athene's but that's mostly because it's actually a big item. People don't buy small items for a reason.

    (I didn't add Morello's because frankly it might be sort of useful maybe in some situation sometime but I'd still say I pretty much never see it over DFG)
    Tenacity items are used, locket is used, Ionic is used. Just because you dont use them doesnt mean they arent still popular items. To actually list locket as not used is pretty ridiculous lol, its one of the top support items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanjori View Post
    Tenacity items are used, locket is used, Ionic is used. Just because you dont use them doesnt mean they arent still popular items. To actually list locket as not used is pretty ridiculous lol, its one of the top support items.
    We could go back and forth trying to be as ambiguous as possible about it or we could just skip straight to the "lol no ur rong" stage.

    lol no ur rong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycoris View Post
    We could go back and forth trying to be as ambiguous as possible about it or we could just skip straight to the "lol no ur rong" stage.

    lol no ur rong.
    Split push Shen > Ionic, Volibear > Ionic.

    You really want to think that Locket isnt used? Do you play or watch the game ever?

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