1. #14601
    Quote Originally Posted by Isrozzis View Post
    The line that is put down before the ult doesn't accurately represent the hitbox if it's fired at an angle. I don't remember why, but where the laser hits is a little bit off of where the red line is.
    Its perspective thing, the beam visual is a bit higher of ground so when it appears to cross something it might just be in front of it :d.
    This is common problem with all the shooters that are not top down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFK-Champion View Post
    Its perspective thing, the beam visual is a bit higher of ground so when it appears to cross something it might just be in front of it :d.
    This is common problem with all the shooters that are not top down.
    Yup, so the little red laser is right on top of them, and then they don't take damage. it's kind of annoying.

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    Any decently rated ADC's want to duo queue? I'm looking to get up to 1500 for war hero and am tired of some of the (for lack of a better word) downers which plague the 1400's.

    Anyways let me know, Zulandia (NA servers).

  4. #14604
    Quote Originally Posted by Isrozzis View Post
    Yup, so the little red laser is right on top of them, and then they don't take damage. it's kind of annoying.
    Damn right it is.

    Some times I even click R and aim with the blue marker and some times it doesn't do any damage... It's pretty annoying.

  5. #14605
    Quote Originally Posted by Zulandia View Post
    Any decently rated ADC's want to duo queue? I'm looking to get up to 1500 for war hero and am tired of some of the (for lack of a better word) downers which plague the 1400's.

    Anyways let me know, Zulandia (NA servers).
    IF you don't find someone pick strong mid/top laners and roam. It's not enough to win your lane! You have to win the lanes for your teammates as well.

    Mid lane can roam easily for top push the lane, gank mid or lane gank bot when drag is up/spawning soon.

  6. #14606
    Quote Originally Posted by meteo View Post
    IF you don't find someone pick strong mid/top laners and roam. It's not enough to win your lane! You have to win the lanes for your teammates as well.

    Mid lane can roam easily for top push the lane, gank mid or lane gank bot when drag is up/spawning soon.
    Or you play whatever you play best because any role can carry if you are good at playing it.

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    Ahh... First game in 3 days. Been to the hospital for a quick surgery.

    Nothing feels better than to get in-game, have your jungle Jax leave after 10 minutes, then proceed to carry your team as Eve mid.

    I went 18-2-11 and we absolutely dominated the enemy team, after I successfully ganked top and bot a couple of times.

    What a great day...
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    AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE FUCKED. (Yes, it's my forums, I'm allowed to do that)

  8. #14608
    Quote Originally Posted by Trollspwn View Post
    Or you play whatever you play best because any role can carry if you are good at playing it.
    Isn't it obvious that you shouldn't play something you don't know how to play although it's quite strong?

    The thing is you have to make an impact on the game and the biggest impact on the game (as a laner) can be made by roaming. Winning the lane is good but if you really want to win, you ward enemy buffs and gank other lanes. Winning the lane is quite often not enough to win the game.

    The reason i said top and mid is that top is the lane which snowballs the hardest even with small advantages (even an early gank top which wasn't succesful but forced the enemy to burn health pots can be enough) and mid has the lane in the center of the map, allowing it to roam 2 lanes (instead of only 1 for the other 2 lanes) and being near buffs, allowing for counterjungling.

    AD has the biggest impact late game but in solo queue most games are decided early - mid game (so many poeple surrender at 20 although they would have had the far better late game team) where ad carries don't have that much of an impact and are easily taken out by a fed bruiser.
    (Before someone attacks me for this: AD carries scale so well with items that their early-mid-late game depends more on items than on levels = if you are able to kill the enemy botlane often enough, you can be already in "late" mid game or late game from your power level.)

    You can carry as a jungler but you rely on others a bit more (if all 3 lanes push you can only counter gank and you have to trust your lanes to use the advantages you gave them [ganks cost the jungler exp + farm, kills can compensate]).

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    Nah all roles are equally good at carrying assuming you are not smurphing.

    You just stated a bunch of things that any player at level 30 knows, but none of it actually matters if you are not smurphing. If you are so good you can destroy mid and top every game you´ll reach high ELO regardless. You are assuming there is a ELO hell and the player is better than their ELO which most of the time is not true. Just play whatever role you like the most, when you improve your ELO will rise regardless which role you play.

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    Err no
    I found out the role that make most impact is solo top, assume all other lanes are equal (even in kill), solo top bruiser make or brake the game, followed by jungler, followed by ranged AD/mid AP carry, followed last by support

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    Err no
    I found out the role that make most impact is solo top, assume all other lanes are equal (even in kill), solo top bruiser make or brake the game, followed by jungler, followed by ranged AD/mid AP carry, followed last by support
    Nope. It might seem that top is the most important one, but mid/late game without an Ad Carry, your team loses a lot of chances of winning.

    Ad carry is fundamental to win games, while not having a top champion isn't. Vlad is an example, he's an ap but is played as top because he's viable in there.

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    What you guys are talking about is largely irrelevant becuase it´s likely you won´t be much better than your opponent at that role.

    Raising ELO isn´t about carrying it is about improving and being a positive influence on your team (which includes not flaming and being nice). Most people don´t like jungling and supporting hence they are the easiest roles to outplay your enemy in, meaning they are probablly the best for raising ELO with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    Err no
    I found out the role that make most impact is solo top, assume all other lanes are equal (even in kill), solo top bruiser make or brake the game, followed by jungler, followed by ranged AD/mid AP carry, followed last by support
    It comes down to when certain champions are strong. Like top and mid are going to be strong once they their ults, and can burst people. Mid especially. Bottom doesn't really get strong until you get a good amount of farm or you get super fed, which does happen sometimes. Even if you are doing just average in bottom lane, if your team can hold out till the late game and not make too many mistakes, you can carry as a ranged ad.

    Imo it's easiest to carry the game as a mid or a jungler. The jungler has impact on the entire game, all the time. And the mid can roam. It's still very easy to carry as a ranged ad if you can coordinate your team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollspwn View Post
    What you guys are talking about is largely irrelevant becuase it´s likely you won´t be much better than your opponent at that role.

    Raising ELO isn´t about carrying it is about improving and being a positive influence on your team (which includes not flaming and being nice). Most people don´t like jungling and supporting hence they are the easiest roles to outplay your enemy in, meaning they are probablly the best for raising ELO with.
    Assuming that a team is 100% similar in experience and being good at this game, the most important and damage dealing champion will be the Ad carry, and everyone knows that.

    I also know that this doesn't happen, at all and he's/she's saying that AD carries aren't the most important roles probably because he had a lot of games where his AD carries did nothing, but that doesn't change the fact that AD carries allow a team, a lot more, to win a game than a Top lane champion, assuming there's no snowball of course.

  15. #14615
    Don't understand Lux her ulti at all. I use it like I use my Ez his ult. Smartcast and click where I want it to be. For example bot lane with Ez, enemy top is low? I set my camera to top (this has killed me various of times ) and smartcast my ability where I think he will be.

    If I do the same with Lux I see my castbar go, spell on CD, yet I have seen no ulti whatsoever. I can shoot a pack of minions with a million champs in it, none will have seen the ulti or gotten any damage whatsoever. If I'm mid lane and do my Q E R combo it seems to work fine. As long as I see myself on my screen.

    Does this make any sense? Will try without smartcasting now.

  16. #14616
    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    Don't understand Lux her ulti at all. I use it like I use my Ez his ult. Smartcast and click where I want it to be. For example bot lane with Ez, enemy top is low? I set my camera to top (this has killed me various of times ) and smartcast my ability where I think he will be.

    If I do the same with Lux I see my castbar go, spell on CD, yet I have seen no ulti whatsoever. I can shoot a pack of minions with a million champs in it, none will have seen the ulti or gotten any damage whatsoever. If I'm mid lane and do my Q E R combo it seems to work fine. As long as I see myself on my screen.

    Does this make any sense? Will try without smartcasting now.
    It doesn't make any sense at all.

    Sometimes, even when I hit my Q, and ult right on top of them, sometimes, ult does not damage, at all. And I tried using ult with no smartcast and some times it still doesn't do any damage.

    I don't understand what's wrong, if it's a bug or not, but it's annoying as hell.

  17. #14617
    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    It doesn't make any sense at all.

    Sometimes, even when I hit my Q, and ult right on top of them, sometimes, ult does not damage, at all. And I tried using ult with no smartcast and some times it still doesn't do any damage.

    I don't understand what's wrong, if it's a bug or not, but it's annoying as hell.
    I don't even see my ulti where I aim to, for all I know she shoots it behind her in the opposite direction.

  18. #14618
    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    I don't even see my ulti where I aim to.
    Well, if you don't smartcast her ult, you'll only see an arrow near her and at the end of the ult's range, I don't even know why it doesn't have an arrow all the way to the end, but then again, Ez's doesn't have one too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    I don't even see my ulti where I aim to, for all I know she shoots it behind her in the opposite direction.
    I don't understand this part, sorry. :s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    I don't even see my ulti where I aim to, for all I know she shoots it behind her in the opposite direction.
    I believe that's a bug. I think it used to happen with ashe arrows too, but I haven't seen it in awhile. I have heard people complaining about lux ults going the wrong way before though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    I don't even see my ulti where I aim to, for all I know she shoots it behind her in the opposite direction.
    Lux ult isn't global so if you aim it at top lane from mid you wont see it.
    (Just assuming you think its global by your ez ult comparison)
    Last edited by Zelgius the Monado; 2012-10-14 at 08:17 PM. Reason: typo

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