It's really not forbidden to discuss here.
Just ignore if you don't want to read or participate. :b
It's really not forbidden to discuss here.
Just ignore if you don't want to read or participate. :b
This is getting more heated than my tribunal reports page ^^
There is no sale, this has been established and chewed over, and now all that is left is a pointless DOTA vs LoL discussion - which no-one can ever win - or prove any actual point over anyway.
I can't be the only one who prefers an actual conversation/debate over a boring 1 page long chat thread followed either by reposts from the LoL Websites Main Page or #MyLoLDayWentLikeThis twitter-like posts.
Conversation yes, borderline agressive arguments comparing 2 games in the same genre? Not so much...
Get enough of that dullness elsewhere on this site, and it never leads to any changed opinions or very interesting insights imo, but I by no means speak for anyone other than myself
I quite like the randomness of this thread though, and the fact it's usually fairly lighthearted with the odd interesting tid-bit thrown in!
How make me not hate the grind:
Add a system to try out absolutely anything you want in a custom game.
This is, incidentally, why I was pretty okay with the gear grind in Tribes despite weapons taking forever to get.
But, there's no way Riot hasn't had this suggested to them so the likely answer is that they can't (they can temporarily enable all champions at the very least if you have a tournament key, right?) or don't feel like it.
I was thinking about a system like that, but Riot most likely doesn't want that because people might skip Matchmaking all together to just do custom games where all champions are available. My personal solution was allow all champions in bot games. Allows you to use the champion and get a feel for it, but in the end still restricts you and makes you buy it for real use against other players.
Guys seriously I had to look at the thread title when I read your posts to make sure it was still about LoL here.
Seems some people in here are angry 'cause a business wants to make money.
I know, it's fucking crazy, right?!
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Welp, that makes it much faster. Correcting misunderstandings is a magic skill.
The thing is: you do NOT need all the champions. You can have all the bases and all counters covered with maybe 1/4th of them. Sure, you can buy 6 different champions to cover the same pick - but you can buy one or two out of them and still be just as fine. Instead of that EXTREMELY niche MR runepage you will use once in a blue moon(you sure you want to use one of rune page slots on it?) you can rush Negatron after playing safe for a few minutes and be just as fine, if not better off.
Why not refund him?
The IP you used to buy Yorick is not something you spent time -working- for. It's something you got while playing the game. If you consider playing the game a chore, work you get tired of, then there's something wrong with how you are trying to enjoy it.
I can only hope you are right. Make no mistake, I am not hating on DOTA2 and Valve. I have not played the game, thus I have no opinion on it, nor do I want it to fail. It's just that I've seen many "True, complete F2P!" games go down the path I gave an example of.
This is already settled with Lycoris, so I'll just call you on your "1st grade reading comprehension". Lycoris replied to me replying to others who were calling Riot greedy. He did not say it himself but defended people saying it. Got it all sorted now?
Also, I could explain that I used a hyperbole by calling Riot "best" in that regard in order to emphasize in how high of a regard I hold Riot's ability to keep LoL free with everything they provide.
"Paying" time, "grinding"....... So many ugly words. You are talking as if playing LoL was a horrendous work, something you HAVE to do, a job. But it IS NOT. The time you spend "working" for those champions and runes is the time you have spent PLAYING the game, having fun. If you are "working" in order to be able to "work" more, just with different abilities under your qwer fingers, then you are doing something very, very wrong and you should not be spending your time on this game at all.
The design of LoL is around summoner's progression - you spend time playing, get XP, levels and IP. It's a bit RPG like in that regard - this is one of the differences that set it apart from other MOBAs. If you dislike the entire idea around which the game is designed you need to stop playing it and play one that suits you instead of trying to convince people who like that model how bad it is.
The advantage you speak of is non-existent. For a lvl 27 newbie counterpicking does not matter at all, so all the RPGuy has is a bigger selection of champions - nothing even remotely close to advantage that could tip the scales of the game towards his team. For an experienced player things are the same - let me use an example. What Player A has 6 different champions he can counter enemy Darius with; Player B has 2 different champions he can counter enemy Darius with. What is the advantage Player A has over Player B? None. RP can give a bigger choice, but in the game it does not matter if you could've picked from between 2 champions that can do the job or 10 champions that can do the job.
Little girl selling lemonade at a stand down the street or
Large evil company abusing child workers and loopholes in enviromental protection laws to maximize profits.
I mean hyperbole but come on, do you just not get it?
Uh, what.
Legitimately confused.
Except that champions counter other champions to a degree, not to an absolute, to downplay the difference in countering them and the other various strengths of the champion is silly.
You mean that 3-times-in-your-life system that I used on all my Teemo skins once I realized the game is never gonna let me AD carry Teemo properly?
I purchase a champion in an informed manner, increasing my enjoyment of the game.
I purchase a champion in an uninformed manner and it turns out I don't like him, decreasing my enjoyment of the game.
Do you just not see that there might possibly maybe perhaps perchance maybe in a blue moon be somehow related?
1)If you need to refund all the time then you're doing something wrong in the purchase process.
2)Erm, Teemo was never supposed to be an AD carry. You can't mean that thing about unbalanced game from before you edited the post is about not being able to play a champion in position he is not supposed to fill?
3)You are a Teemo player. You are dead to me.
Short of actually playing the champion, you can do a ton of stuff to find out if you're gonna like him or not prior to buying if you wish to make a truly informed choice. Read up guides, watch gameplay/guide videos and streams... If you still made a bad choice despite all that, refund.
I'm aware free accounts can't be in group chats unless they're an admin but...what? Does DotA just not work on a free account? Because I'm pretty sure I've heard the grand stories of people smurfing with the invites they got.
Suffice it to say, I got to 30 and the way I wanted to play Teemo got me yelled at.
Gameplay videos of ARTS games are some of the most boring things ever besides things like fails of the week. I did, however, watch videos, it didn't help.
If you don't enjoy the discussion, the x button should be on the top right. Enjoy the other threads.
Why should I read another thread because you want to, yet again, in a League of Legends thread, post quasi-intellectual comments about how DotA2 is so superior. Why don't you go to the DotA thread? I come here because I actually enjoy LoL, I don't see your motivation other than to flamebait and troll...?
Does nothing but meme arrow. Compares to Dota2 24/7. Constructive? Please. You're just lording over the fact that you play the superior game "IN YOUR OPINION". You care nothing for LoL, and bitch and piss about how the game is bad to you. Go do it in the DotA2 thread with the rest of the fanboys. At least they can stick to their thread.