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    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    They are doing a magic trick on us. :/

    OT: They really need to get this new jungle out because I want to see how Shaco fairs in it. I'm getting annoyed because I want to be able to see if boots and health pots are actually, like they said, still possible on Shaco.
    Preliminary testing is that Riot lied and everyone should start Machete. Sorry.

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    So, did you guys see this?
    http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/11...d-of-2012.html
    Guessing the one they'll pull out after Nami, assuming they don't do 2 or so in December.

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    "I actually tested Tryndamere in the new jungle. He's actually fairly fast even though it's kinda RNG, I got a pretty fast clear despite not getting too many crits, red dies @ 3:37 but my health is like 40% hp with no pots left.
    Tryndamere being a single target jungler I decided to go for golems rather than wolves to get a faster clear.
    I think he'll probably be good with a leash, LS quints are an option, I played him with AS reds and AD quints, 19/11 in masteries.
    3:37 is 1 sec faster than the best clearing time you can get on Lee Sin, faster than Xin, Trundle etc, and is only 7-8 sec slower than Udyr and Olaf."

    Received this message today from a guy on Reddit I asked to test Trynd. Looks promising.

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    Diana looks like she'll just raep though. Near full health at the end with 2+ health pots ready at 3:40'ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycoris View Post
    Diana looks like she'll just raep though. Near full health at the end with 2+ health pots ready at 3:40'ish
    And Diana is probably getting tweaked/nerfed as well from what I read

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    Too bad i cant jungle Draven anymore when the changes hit live.

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    yI see the term alot but I can't seem to crack it.
    What's ARAM?

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    All Random All Mid, basically a custom game on Proving Grounds with the "all random" rule.
    That means everybody gets a random champion, which usually ends up being one they don't play much usually.
    Last edited by Drathos; 2012-11-20 at 07:59 PM.

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    It's also sometimes hard to get an ARAM going because people don't grasp what "Random" means, so they'll just go "I don't wanna play that!" and quit at champ select.

    Really annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SargorVirm View Post
    yI see the term alot but I can't seem to crack it.
    What's ARAM?
    all random all mid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    Preliminary testing is that Riot lied and everyone should start Machete. Sorry.
    pretty much this. I've done some runs through the new jungle with some lesser used champs (master yi for example) and it's pretty painful. Udyr can start with a dorans blade and do well, I think diana could probably do something else too since her clear is pretty ridiculous. I don't know though, I might have to test it out.

    I think with leashes, well just damage now, other items besides machette may be viable if you want to go for some sort of gank or rush some specific item. I do think gp10 jungling is rather dead though.

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    In ARAM, anything with alots of poke, sustain can just dominate the game.

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    CC can be pretty amazing as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isrozzis View Post
    pretty much this. I've done some runs through the new jungle with some lesser used champs (master yi for example) and it's pretty painful. Udyr can start with a dorans blade and do well, I think diana could probably do something else too since her clear is pretty ridiculous. I don't know though, I might have to test it out.

    I think with leashes, well just damage now, other items besides machette may be viable if you want to go for some sort of gank or rush some specific item. I do think gp10 jungling is rather dead though.
    Actually, it might not be. People smarter and with more time on there hands than me (read: stonewall) have actually figured out the new jungle gives the same gold up to 11 minutes as the current jungle. However, everyone else is making less gold and passive gold generation was bumped up, which accounts for the slightly more gold.

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    I need to play LoL.

    Hm, I think for the coming times that's all I'm going to say when I come here. T.T

    I wish I had more time, like, an extra 24 hours just so I can focus on gaming. xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    Actually, it might not be. People smarter and with more time on there hands than me (read: stonewall) have actually figured out the new jungle gives the same gold up to 11 minutes as the current jungle. However, everyone else is making less gold and passive gold generation was bumped up, which accounts for the slightly more gold.
    Hmm, I think kages will be good on diana. Though if you turn your machete into a spirit stone, then philo stone is really only their for extra gold. People take it now becuase it gives sustain and gp10, but if it only gives gp10 (it still gives sustain, just you already have some) then it's not that useful. You could also just sell the machete after you don't really need it anymore instead of upgrading it. I'm not really sure if people will do that though.


    Anyways, I did some more pbe jungle diana stuff.
    Dorans ring: 3:55ish
    Dorans Shield: 4:00
    Amp tome and 1 pot: 3:50
    Boots x3: 3:45ish
    Machete x5: 3:40 with close to full health and two pots left over.

    Right now the machete is the obvious item to start with, but I think if you got a good enough leash/damage you could do amp tome and rush some item out of that. I don't know if it is viable to skip the items that the machete goes into (I kind of doubt it) but it's another option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isrozzis View Post
    Hmm, I think kages will be good on diana. Though if you turn your machete into a spirit stone, then philo stone is really only their for extra gold. People take it now becuase it gives sustain and gp10, but if it only gives gp10 (it still gives sustain, just you already have some) then it's not that useful. You could also just sell the machete after you don't really need it anymore instead of upgrading it. I'm not really sure if people will do that though.


    Anyways, I did some more pbe jungle diana stuff.
    Dorans ring: 3:55ish
    Dorans Shield: 4:00
    Amp tome and 1 pot: 3:50
    Boots x3: 3:45ish
    Machete x5: 3:40 with close to full health and two pots left over.

    Right now the machete is the obvious item to start with, but I think if you got a good enough leash/damage you could do amp tome and rush some item out of that. I don't know if it is viable to skip the items that the machete goes into (I kind of doubt it) but it's another option.
    I would never sell machete. The items it builds into are too good. Another good reason to always start machete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftero View Post
    As long as it's not Katarina, a penta is always impressive.

    Not that it's not impressive on Katarina either, but if anything, she is the least impressing one to get it on.
    And a Karthus somewhere laughed quietly while polishing his [R] key.

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    Whats the best way to deal with rage over bad SC2 players? Win a 4v5 ranked game in LoL! The wonders good teamwork can do. Also helps to be tanky as fuck with a Mundo(me) and a Leona to protect the carries.

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    Just played Karthus for the first time (been waiting on his free week for a loooong time) and MAN, is that guy fun or what?! Not much early kill potential unless it's coordinated well with your jungler, but his farm is ridiculous. I'll admit I'm not a great farmer playing mid unless I'm Malzahar, but Jesus, I broke 170+ farm in 20! (which I know isn't a lot, but it is for me)

    Dunno how anyone else builds him and I didn't even check any build guides, but I went for boots+3, rushed RoA, grabbed Rabadons, went for Archangels, WotA (just leaving E on whilst in teamfights and healing like crazy pwns) and Rylais, just for that lil bit o' health. Worked really well, finished 22/4/17 lol

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