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    Quote Originally Posted by okayKilljoy View Post
    Hi guys! I'm new to 30, trying to get better before I step into ranked. I main support for the most part (10 straight wins and counting with Janna) but I can play everything reasonably well besides jungle (don't know who, when, or how to gank).

    First off, would you advise playing support in solo queue? Carries seem very hit-or-miss as far as skill goes and it's always the support's fault when the carry gets greedy and dies.

    Also, I watch a lot of Wingsofdeath and Scarra's streams, but I haven't found a decent support player who streams and breaks down the game as well as those two. Any suggestions?
    For support specifically, I recommend watching Xpecial (support player for TSM). He's not only a support main and very talented player, but he's actually a pretty nice guy, and he seems pretty open to teaching people about the game, being nice to those with less experience, etc. He's pretty good about explaining stuff as well.

    Start with his generic support guide found here.

    From there, just try to catch his stream while he's on. I'm not sure how good he is at commentating his actual stream, but even if he doesn't do it all that well, just watch what he does. Where he wards and when, etc.

    I believe that he has a guide written for each individual champion in addition to his generic guide, which can all be found on solomid.

    Another tip, is try to play quite a bit of ADC as well. It gives you quite a feel for supporting, because you learn, as an ADC, what you like your supports to do, and then you can approach the role of support from the mindset of "if I were an ADC, I would want my support to do <insert action here> right about now".

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    Taric boring? He's helluva aggressive in lane, what's boring about him? There's nothing more fun than laning with a Graves and popping -everything- you both have at the enemy(ies) the moment you hit 6. All that's left is a huge crater and the enemy still standing, things happening too fast for them to notice they're dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Taric boring? He's helluva aggressive in lane, what's boring about him? There's nothing more fun than laning with a Graves and popping -everything- you both have at the enemy(ies) the moment you hit 6. All that's left is a huge crater and the enemy still standing, things happening too fast for them to notice they're dead.
    True, actually one of the funner supports able to finish off 1-2 people with lower hp, tanky as hell too.

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    Taric has got to be one of my favorite champions, I love it when they run into my bush at the start of the game, followed by exhaust.

    Lategame is stun is effective as hell vs high DPS'ers & his ulti benefits all of his team last I remember. Don't get me started on his heal once you get cooldown reduction items.

    But I don't play ranked so what do I know. D:
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    Following up on what other people said, as a support, you can actually make/help set-up plays, it doesn't have to be the passive heal-fest that people associate the role to be. Even Soraka can help out with some plays, saving your E to silence to interrupt an enemy channeled spell such as a Katarina ult, or using your ult to potentially save a teammate that's tower-diving/being tower-dived.

    The ward coverage you'll usually be responsible for will make those plays even easier to set-up.

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    hi durr. this might be a stupid ass question, but.

    can you smart cast wards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proberly View Post
    hi durr. this might be a stupid ass question, but.

    can you smart cast wards?
    Yes. Just set your smart-cast items keys up to do so.

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    A question here..

    Why they can't do more skins for maps ? Actually they have the winter one , the Halloween one.. But more could be fun. I don't know how you guys can play over and over and over in the same environment. Ok this is a moba game and its based on champions but.. I don't know.

    Its like when you play a race game and always do the same circle with different cars...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Taric boring? He's helluva aggressive in lane, what's boring about him? There's nothing more fun than laning with a Graves and popping -everything- you both have at the enemy(ies) the moment you hit 6. All that's left is a huge crater and the enemy still standing, things happening too fast for them to notice they're dead.
    I find him boring and his kit is counter productive. Damage them but lose the armor? He isn't that hard to kill after that, so your definitely dead if you screw up. Leona is so much more fun and I can pull off many more cool things with her. Taric is passive in comparison. Same compared to Sona. I can do more with them while Taric feels like a buff bot and extra damage source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkazam View Post
    A question here..

    Why they can't do more skins for maps ? Actually they have the winter one , the Halloween one.. But more could be fun. I don't know how you guys can play over and over and over in the same environment. Ok this is a moba game and its based on champions but.. I don't know.

    Its like when you play a race game and always do the same circle with different cars...
    They recently revamped SR, so we won't likely see updated winter and Halloween versions of SR for a while.

    Skins for the maps are usually not top priority items because of the exclusivity of them.

    As for other maps/game modes, Twisted Treeline and Dominion (Crystal Scar) don't see as much play as SR does, but ARAMs (Proving Grounds) are popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    Yes. Just set your smart-cast items keys up to do so.
    holy shit i have never noticed them before, tho i've just skimmed the keybinds other than regular smart casts.

    i've never really cared about smart casting wards before, but i'm keen on learning lee sin, and feel like it's a must if it was possible, so ty

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    I want to buy Kha'Zix, but is he any good?

    Me and a friend of mine find him blatantly OP.


    But is he really that good? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolkingler1 View Post
    I want to buy Kha'Zix, but is he any good?

    Me and a friend of mine find him blatantly OP.


    But is he really that good? :P
    Like other AD Casters/Assassins at this point, very strong. His single target with an isolated enemy is ridiculous and his resetting jump is absolutely amazing for his job. Good pick as long as you can play him correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurdiern View Post
    Like other AD Casters/Assassins at this point, very strong. His single target with an isolated enemy is ridiculous and his resetting jump is absolutely amazing for his job. Good pick as long as you can play him correctly.
    Okay, then Kha it is....he is fun to play anyway.

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    Finally had an enemy team get aced at level 1. They just invaded and were greedy for the buff and kills when they had no vision, and I managed to walk away 2/0/2 as kennen top so I went to lane with boots/2 tomes/pots/ward. Seriously why do people risk so much for level 1 invades, if a fight is about to start you should just back off if you're lacking vision of the enemy.

    Needless to say they pretty much lost horribly because every lane started off snowballed and nobody threw their lead. Although there was an embarrassing part where the enemy was starting to chase some members of my team so I panicked and tried to flash over the wall to ult them and turn the fight and ended up failing flash. Should have just waited to get closer to the thin part of the wall instead of trying to do a risky jump. Failing flash just makes you feel bad.
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    So I made this yesterday:


    The only original source I could find for the Draven faces & background was this, the rest were reposts on Funnyjunk.

    Used the background & faces from Google Image, the League of Legends logo bottom part was the hardest to make. :P
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    That Taric discussion is like the Sona discussion with Vespian all over again. Wrong impressions.
    Taric is not boring at all. Hell, him + Graves is probably the deadliest combo in bot, no one can take down someone as fast as them two early game.
    Also yeah, "lose armor" and all that, but that's only your own extra armor. The armor aura still stays, and you'll only lose armor you wouldn't have in the first place.

    Also that Draaaaaaven pic is amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grading View Post
    That Taric discussion is like the Sona discussion with Vespian all over again. Wrong impressions.
    Taric is not boring at all. Hell, him + Graves is probably the deadliest combo in bot, no one can take down someone as fast as them two early game.
    Also yeah, "lose armor" and all that, but that's only your own extra armor. The armor aura still stays, and you'll only lose armor you wouldn't have in the first place.

    Also that Draaaaaaven pic is amazing.
    Boring is a personal impression. It's never wrong. Even if it changes later on, it's never wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    Boring is a personal impression. It's never wrong. Even if it changes later on, it's never wrong.
    was about to say this. You can't say Taric isn't boring because he is a deadly combo in bot, to me that might be boring and I might enjoy passive Soraka play more :P

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    I'm more worried about certain Draven combos than anything with Graves, tbh.

    ---------- Post added 2012-12-30 at 04:01 PM ----------

    Sidenote, speaking of ADs.

    How's Urgot in the new season?

    Seems like Muramana, Iceborn Gauntlet, Black Cleaver, Bloodthirster and Mercurial Sciminatar would be pretty darn nice.
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