1. #23821
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    How about Thresh+anything? :D I honestly can not imagine a carry that wouldn't go well with him. A ton of protection and an additional escape for any Kog-like late-game powerhouse, incredible kill power with any early/mid-game champion.
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    Last edited by tangosmango; 2013-01-23 at 02:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangosmango View Post
    60% win rate is a very good one, scrubs certainly do not have anything even close to it. Average "OMG ELO HELL" guy is prolly at ~45% at best. ^.^
    "Defending a position by citing free speech is the ultimate concession: you're saying that literally the most compelling thing you can say for it is that it's not illegal to express."

  4. #23824
    I have 100% win rate with Darius(only 2 games lol) that doesn't mean i'll get to diamong faster lol i still can get feeders, leavers, ragers, flamers, toxics, etc..

    I have ~5 games with Riven but i lost 4 because of dumbfucks and im sad because im best with her

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    Holy hellballs. I have AP Yi and King Tryndamere in the same game.

    I'm scared.

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    Yeah, those 2 champions are annoying..."Im going to kill yi/tryndmere!!!" "Nope, chuck testa, Highlander/Undyng Rage" Yi/Tryndmere /laugh

  7. #23827
    Just played my first game as Kata, didn't go too well at first but got into the swing of things. Also, I was laning against a Kata.. Fucked her in lane but she got a roaming kill on our jungler, from then she sort of just ran straight into me rather fearlessly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durmindo View Post
    Yeah, those 2 champions are annoying..."Im going to kill yi/tryndmere!!!" "Nope, chuck testa, Highlander/Undyng Rage" Yi/Tryndmere /laugh
    btw

    ur sig says "they cannot go... unpinished..." dno if it's intentional =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackroo View Post
    btw

    ur sig says "they cannot go... unpinished..." dno if it's intentional =P
    I know Majad made it and i replied it had a typo she still hasn't gave me a new one =/

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  10. #23830
    @shen builds: AD > AP because his AP ratios are bad (0.6, 0.6, 0.5 and 1.35) and AP won't help him that much when splitpushing.

    @new ranked system: Does someone know what system (old vs new) takes less games to gain rating? Somehow I can't think for myself right now :/

  11. #23831
    Someone posted a graphic that you need 13 games with 60% win rate to advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durmindo View Post
    Someone posted a graphic that you need 13 games with 60% win rate to advance
    8:6 w/l => +80-96, -66-84. If i remember the elo gains/losses correctly that would be insane (+10-12 per win, -11-14 per loss) and would inflate the tiers in days....

  13. #23833
    Quote Originally Posted by meteo View Post
    8:6 w/l => +80-96, -66-84. If i remember the elo gains/losses correctly that would be insane (+10-12 per win, -11-14 per loss) and would inflate the tiers in days....
    Don't blame me lol, this graphic was posted on Reddit and in this thread cin this page http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...win_rates_and/

  14. #23834
    Am I retarded and can't math anymore?

    I assume his numers are right (only estimated 5 and 6 games and his numbers are around that) but where does he get those 13 games with over 50% chance to advance from? I can't see that in his data...additionally he completely ignores that he only calculated the chance to qualify and then goes from chance to qualify to chance to advance...what? You can still lose the Bo3.

    If i look at his data, You need 19 games to have over 50% chance to qualify and you still have to play the Bo3 [chance to win it with 60% w/l would be around 65% => between 33 and 34% to advance after 21/22 games



    Please tell me i can't see it because I'm still half asleep...

    EDIT: One thing that bugs me right now is that he assumes that you can't drop below 0 LP but that's not really true because your MMR WILL drop when losing which will make you gain less LP => increasing the amount of wins needed to qualify and so on.
    Last edited by meteo; 2013-01-23 at 07:34 AM.

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    Too lazy to know how it will work and to correct your math(if it's wrong)

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    Quote Originally Posted by meteo View Post
    Am I retarded and can't math anymore?
    Nope, just can't read. Below I pasted a link with things you have doubts about in thick, red frames for your convenience. In other words - yes, you can lose the Bo3 but he only gave you the math on what are your odds of getting a chance assuming a very good win rate. Also, you will not gain less points if your ELO drops due to continuous losing.

    http://i.imgur.com/DkDL5w7.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Nope, just can't read. Below I pasted a link with things you have doubts about in thick, red frames for your convenience. In other words - yes, you can lose the Bo3 but he only gave you the math on what are your odds of getting a chance assuming a very good win rate. Also, you will not gain less points if your ELO drops due to continuous losing.

    http://i.imgur.com/DkDL5w7.png
    can't read and misunderstood the advance. Read it as advance to the next tier

    But you will get less points from losing multiple games in a row. You still have a MMR although it's not shown.

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    Some of the things that chart missed.
    - You can drop a rank in a division, you just cannot fall to Bronze from Silver.
    - If you lose a bunch of games at 0 of tier 5, you won't gain as many points. This is to discourage people from tanking their hidden ELO to gain points faster.
    - Also, a red said if you go on a winning streak you will gain more points.

    I imagine it will be quite similar to the current system. You will need a 55-60% win rate to advance slowly as your skill increases and everyone will end up where they belong.

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  19. #23839
    So what champions do you guys think snowball the hardest in terms of carrying a team? Personally I think it's champions like Karthus/Wukong/Katarina who do the best at it because of their AoE damage in team fights. Also it's hard to kill them considering Karthus/Wukong want to be in the middle of everything and Katarina doesn't go in until it's safe for her to. Get any of those kind of champions fed and suddenly they're killing your whole team with their massive damage.

  20. #23840
    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz View Post
    So what champions do you guys think snowball the hardest in terms of carrying a team? Personally I think it's champions like Karthus/Wukong/Katarina who do the best at it because of their AoE damage in team fights. Also it's hard to kill them considering Karthus/Wukong want to be in the middle of everything and Katarina doesn't go in until it's safe for her to. Get any of those kind of champions fed and suddenly they're killing your whole team with their massive damage.
    Any champ with resets can snowball out of control, i.e. Kat, Darius, Kha'zix

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