1. #26781
    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    This is Riot Games, you know, the company that makes champions weak and unplayable for various reasons, some good and some stupid. Who were you expecting, Valve and IceFrog?

    Then again, maybe that change wasn't intended and came to that build accidentally.

    The upcoming Quinn hype did bring to light about how neglected Ashe is.
    I don't feel like giving Alpha Strike AD scaling would really do much, honestly. I'd rather, say, get a part(not much, necessarily) of the defensive stats from Meditate for a few seconds after it ends, because AD Yi's only real problem(which can be fixed by not going full glass cannon) is that, just like AP Yi, he gets instantly blown up if he gets CCd.

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    Had fun in my last game. Was a Renekton... Yi goes to meditate, I just stun him and then kill him. Problem solved.

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    Anyone see that new Blitzcrank skin that's unavailable in shop? Has an interesting look to him when I first saw it.
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  4. #26784
    I like this Darius nerf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalltusk View Post
    No hes the one getting silence and killed by all the free talons! :P
    Haha. All the Talons on my team are bad and all the Talons on the other team seem to know what they are doing. I kill him pretty easy as Fizz or if I really wanna be mean I just go Elise mid. If a Talon beats my Fizz, they very likely just played better than me. I don't mind that very much.

    I misspoke a bit though. Ezreal also being free is what makes it more noticeable, since when both are occupied by these two the suck seems to just go through the roof.. I've finally got the hang of Nami and been setting up some SICK Qs and they never follow through. Never. I will probably start crying in the corner when I work up the guts to play Ranked again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infighter View Post
    I like this Darius nerf.
    Co-freaking-signed. I am just waiting for the gush of FOTM tears on the official forums. They will be so good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    Alpha strike dosnt have an AD ratio again.
    Well it's the PBE, they test things and see if things work and what not. I thought it was pretty cool to keep it, but I guess it's not going to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenai View Post
    Co-freaking-signed. I am just waiting for the gush of FOTM tears on the official forums. They will be so good.
    The thing about this Darius nerf that those whiners don't realize is that Penta dunking with him is still possible, it's just that the snowball effect of using it to win a 1v1 in-lane won't be as massive anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isrozzis View Post
    Well it's the PBE, they test things and see if things work and what not. I thought it was pretty cool to keep it, but I guess it's not going to be.
    They would probably have to move that somewhere else. Or they'll not do anything at all, in usual Riot Games fashion. Heck, they'll probably nerf AD Yi instead just because they can.

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  8. #26788
    Yeah, they basically nerfed his laning without touching teamfighting.

    Works for me. It's exactly what they should have done.

  9. #26789
    Now if they could release his Nordic King skin I would consider playing him more. Currently it just feels a little cheap to play him in lane because of how powerful he is during the laning phase, and he doesn't have any skins I like.

    Still curious as to their plans to rework him though. I thought the whole 10 bleed stacks with the ability to spread stacks to nearby targets was neat, but needed a little more work to make it so his laning phase wasn't screwed because of being unable to get enough stacks to make his ult do damage.

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    how to play Jayce

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    The thing about this Darius nerf that those whiners don't realize is that Penta dunking with him is still possible, it's just that the snowball effect of using it to win a 1v1 in-lane won't be as massive anymore.
    Yea, that's exactly why I love it so much. I don't want Darius to become unplayable, but I have absolutely no sympathy for people who can't win with a champion simply because they can't snowball in spite of a mediocre lane phase. Snowballing should be a reward for playing at least somewhat well, not a given for pressing R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenai View Post
    Yea, that's exactly why I love it so much. I don't want Darius to become unplayable, but I have absolutely no sympathy for people who can't win with a champion simply because they can't snowball in spite of a mediocre lane phase. Snowballing should be a reward for playing at least somewhat well, not a given for pressing R.
    Riot managed to tone down some of the snowballers (Darius, Garen, Riven), but there are still some champions that still can snowball and/or are dependent on doing so, but most of those are mid laners now, and snowballing in mid lane is not as drastic as snowballing at top. (i.e. Akali, LeBlanc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz View Post
    Now if they could release his Nordic King skin I would consider playing him more. Currently it just feels a little cheap to play him in lane because of how powerful he is during the laning phase, and he doesn't have any skins I like.

    Still curious as to their plans to rework him though. I thought the whole 10 bleed stacks with the ability to spread stacks to nearby targets was neat, but needed a little more work to make it so his laning phase wasn't screwed because of being unable to get enough stacks to make his ult do damage.
    The ten stack idea was stupid and would have completely screwed over Darius in lane and in team fights. I don't know why Certainlyt even mentioned it. It gave Darius haters false hopes while the Darius players just facepalmed at how stupid it sounded. He has no innate defenses and would need to itemize for AS instead of defense, which would make him explode in team fights and be useless overall. He already has minor TF impact if his ult is down, no need to extend it to when it's up as well.

    This change is good and makes sense. It's like a battle frenzy super ult spree. When the fighting ends you calm down and your ult goes on CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    The ten stack idea was stupid and would have completely screwed over Darius in lane and in team fights. I don't know why Certainlyt even mentioned it. It gave Darius haters false hopes while the Darius players just facepalmed at how stupid it sounded. He has no innate defenses and would need to itemize for AS instead of defense, which would make him explode in team fights and be useless overall. He already has minor TF impact if his ult is down, no need to extend it to when it's up as well.

    This change is good and makes sense. It's like a battle frenzy super ult spree. When the fighting ends you calm down and your ult goes on CD.
    Morello mentioned the 10 stacks thing, not CT. I don't think CT would ruin his baby

    Quote Originally Posted by Vvhooya View Post
    how to play Jayce
    I KNOW, I KNOW, PICK ME!!!!

    Typically it depends on which lane you play and what role you want to fulfill. I play him mostly mid as an anti-carry, but he is still really strong as a bruiser top.

    In both roles you want to build damage first to make his poke useful, so Brutalizer and Bloodthirster are kinda core on him. After that you either go full damage (last whisper, black cleaver, manamune, etc) or bruiser (tri-force, warmogs, randuin). Never build full tank as he'll be basically worthless aside from being a meatshield with a knockback.

    Laning phase is really easy, considering his many speed modifiers and range: they make him safe from ganks and easy to farm with. For example, sometimes if I know the enemy junger is camping my lane i just safely farm from a far with EQ since it starts one-shotting creeps really early. This only works if you're building a manamune though.

    As with all the champs with strong poke, you should always try to precede teamfights with doing that. During them you usually just go for their squishies or, if you're built bruiser, try to protect your carries with your E and Q slow for a little before going back to killing squishies.

    tl;dr: power slam.

  15. #26795
    Quote Originally Posted by Funkthepunk View Post
    4 wins a row with Kha'zix and 8 wins in a row with Vi, making it 12 wins a row. Not bad

    Regarding Kha'zix. I've won all games I've played with him so far (4 games so far), but I still have one major issue with him. I wouldn't really say that I have managed to play any excellent with him. I would actually go so far to say that all my 8 games with Vi I did better than any of my 4 games with Kha'zix.

    This basically comes down to the following:

    - I have a hard time getting creep kills and harrasing before I get W evolved (especially against ranged champions).
    - His gap closer E (jump) is really weak before getting upgraded. You can rarely get into position to stick on your target, and once it is on cooldown you cannot disengage, and it only takes a bit of soft or hard CC to keep you kited.
    - I think his ultimate is rarely game breaking (I don't seem to like evolving it either).
    - He doesn't do a lot of damage before getting Q upgraded.
    - He lacks tankability, and therefore often dies before or after a gank is finished, unless fed.

    The only real succes I've had with him is when I've upgraded both E and W and I can jump around and really mess with my opponents since I can easily harass from range and disengage to safety, and then jump in and finish a target in case they fall behind because of W slow.

    Keep in mind that my account is only level 11, so I don't have flash, glyphs, and I always have to share a lane with someone else (no junglers), so will often mean that I am against at least 1 or 2 champions that can harass me better than I can harass them.

    It could very well just be because I lack experience with this champion (since he seems quite hard to play), but I've had much more success with Vi (ganking, tankability, finishing off opponents, initiating kills on weak targets during team fights etc). What is your opinion regarding this?
    Evolving Q doesn't seem worth it for me to be honest. I always evolve W (poke/lane clear/get away) -> E (chase/escape/SURPRISE MOTHERF) -> R. R gives you an extra time to use invisibility and gives you a massive damage reduction while you are in stealth.
    Even when chasing with an unevolved E once you get to a target you burst them so much they will at least have to back, which is a win on itself. Don't always have to get a kill.
    More then once have I R -> E -> Q -> W -> R -> AA [ignite] -> Q and killed a target like this. Both early and lategame. I love Kha'zix, but I hate laning against champions with a strong AA poke (Lux, Orianna). Once you hit 6 it gets marginally easier, and with 12 they be dead.


    What really bothers me though... I want to transfer from EUNE to EUW, but I / they can't remove my old level 1 account on EUW. So the only way for me to transfer is to make an entirely new account on EUW and let them transfer everything over (champs/runes/pages/skins/rp/ip) - but I lose my wins/loss, LP, MMR/ELO...
    I am somewhat bothered by this :/ I am on a pretty stable 470-400 w/l ratio now and quite happy with it, not looking forward to be put into "troll elo" again.
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  16. #26796
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzual View Post
    Damn I really want Hecarim but I was saving up for LeBlanc :/

    Which do you guys think I should get?
    I want hec but i have 200 IP right now lol..

    I also want to know how is he a super carry.

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    i have 9400 ip atm. sitting here waiting for Quinn, but the fact i dont own ALL the runes nags me every day. like not even good 1's. GP10 blues and reds are the kind of things im missing. BUT THE OCD!!!! resist i must to get Quinn for free!

  18. #26798
    I'm actually impressed with the Darius ult changes. Mad props to Riot for actually nerfing exactly what needed to be nerfed and didn't touch what didn't need to be tuned.
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  19. #26799
    Can't say I enjoy the Darius ult change. And to be honest, I have enjoyed League less as a game to play this season.

    Still great fun to watch and read about. Playing for enjoyment? Not so much for me.

  20. #26800
    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    Riot managed to tone down some of the snowballers (Darius, Garen, Riven), but there are still some champions that still can snowball and/or are dependent on doing so, but most of those are mid laners now, and snowballing in mid lane is not as drastic as snowballing at top. (i.e. Akali, LeBlanc)

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    Even when killed 5 times in lane, Akali just keeps coming back. Her kit seems to be so extremely strong. I played against her in multiple matches lately and the Akali, without exception, carries their entire team of baddies every single time. We had top, jungle and bottom lane fed (or at least succesfully ganking), but Akali got a few kills in on our mid. We got destroyed by Akali. I tried to Vi-ult her as often as I could during teamfights, but she just escaped, circled and went back in. It's like ...akaliception.

    Worst part is, that their entire team celebrated the victory as if it was a great team effort, but they all sucked, except Akali. That was bitter.

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