1. #26921
    nashors tooth and cdr boots for the 40% cdr as he doesnt need magic pen, then deathcap, zhonyas, and lichbane if you really want it. you can literally just split push top the entire game, farm, get rich, and destroy turrets on your own, then escape for free and never die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    Statikk explains it quite well. He had no counterplay. You do not beat and AP Trynd in lane because there is no reliable counter to his massive heal. Now that it relies on fury to be that same insane heal, he now has a little counterplay similar to AD Trynd, don't let him build up fury.
    Play Fizz top, W applies healing reduction, gg Tryn dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by dengatron View Post
    yes. he can solo towers currently without any minions. he still hits hard with base damage, and once he gets ap he starts destroying towers for the same reason a super fed AP carry does(40% of AP > tower damage)
    Xin can do the same thing, are they nerfing Ap Xin? Nope.avi
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    Tbh, even if u pick fizz top, his heal is shorter cd than ur W. He WILL win, because of free trade since the dmg Sticks n Fizz and not trynd

  4. #26924
    Quote Originally Posted by The Monado View Post
    Xin can do the same thing, are they nerfing Ap Xin? Nope.avi
    when xin can spin away, be immune to damage, heal for 800 without hitting something, and still do respectable in team fights, they'll take a look at him. AP xin does do great healing, and can split push, but is also FAR more prone to death, and is incredibly fragile compared to ap tryndamere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SargorVirm View Post
    Tbh, even if u pick fizz top, his heal is shorter cd than ur W. He WILL win, because of free trade since the dmg Sticks n Fizz and not trynd
    Fizz will win an actual fight at level 6 though since he'll be able to burst him down due to the heal reduce, Tryndamere's R can be problematic though, but if you can get to level 6 earlier, you'll win the fight.
    Quote Originally Posted by dengatron View Post
    when xin can spin away, be immune to damage, heal for 800 without hitting something, and still do respectable in team fights, they'll take a look at him. AP xin does do great healing, and can split push, but is also FAR more prone to death, and is incredibly fragile compared to ap tryndamere.
    Ap Xin has a way easier time soloing baron though, due to his heals being far more frequent than Tryndamere's heals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dengatron View Post
    nashors tooth and cdr boots for the 40% cdr as he doesnt need magic pen, then deathcap, zhonyas, and lichbane if you really want it. you can literally just split push top the entire game, farm, get rich, and destroy turrets on your own, then escape for free and never die.
    What about runes and masteries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    What about runes and masteries?
    I would guess ArPen reds, armor/health yellows, flat mr or scaling ap blues (would tend towards scaling ap because most of the harass can be negated by the heal anyway) and AP quints.

    Masteries would be something like this I guess.

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    Anyone fancy a game in about 20 min? Playing on Nordic/East, either dominion or normal.
    Going to the store to buy some coke(liquid, not solid mind you) but then i'm free the entiiire weeeeek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    Honestly I just saw a 1.5 to 0.3 and I'm thinking, "Surely that's a bit much". And fury farming isn't necessarily the easiest thing to do.
    Read first, overreact later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
    Read first, overreact later.
    Just played him and my god he's amazing late game. I played against a nasus top who I must say sustains most the damage but by late game I was tanky and dealing damage with my E and pushing like a boss. Honestly, it didn't feel OP.
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  11. #26931
    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz View Post
    Don't worry about it. Following my guide anybody can become a pro talon player in just 5 minutes!

    1) Find squishy target
    2) Run at squishy target
    3) Hit every button when you catch squishy target
    4) Die
    5) Lose fight
    6) Blame Team

    Repeat the process until the game is over.
    pretty much sums up about every talon player i've encountered in my team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duronos View Post
    What about runes and masteries?
    VoyBoy ran his normal AD runes and masteries. Most of the stuff I've seen elsewhere though was closer to meteo's rune setup with straight AP masteries.

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    How to build Elise in top lane?

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    Tanky w/ MPen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    How to build Elise in top lane?
    i really like the voyboy build. sunfire and/or warmogs, then you can get something like abyssal, or rylais, or liandrys, and either pen shoes, or merc treads. she's pretty great even without ability power because of her skills being percentage damage with high bases, plus having an execute. magic pen reds, flat armor/flat MR yellows and blues, ability power or move speed quints, with 9/21 or 21/9 masteries. it all works. some people even use hybrid pen. WHO KNOWS?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proberly View Post
    pretty much sums up about every talon player i've encountered in my team
    couldn't resist after my luck lately!

  17. #26937
    Just finished a ranked game as alistar did pretty well 1-2-22, but it was kinda sad how toxic the other team was to each other , constant all chatting of reporting " he didint ward " , " he didint gank " , etc. Idk if its just me but if I lose I lose suck it up , you did bad or someone else did bad thats just the game. Idk just needed to vent about it cuz it bothered me :P. Also no one ever thanks the support D: lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Dupree View Post

    He is a god, and should not have to associate with lower class citizens, for his valor points, I mean thats ALL he could be there for, he obviously doesnt need gear, so blizzard should just credit his account with 500 VP a week, for his troubles

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenAgist View Post
    Just finished a ranked game as alistar did pretty well 1-2-22, but it was kinda sad how toxic the other team was to each other , constant all chatting of reporting " he didint ward " , " he didint gank " , etc. Idk if its just me but if I lose I lose suck it up , you did bad or someone else did bad thats just the game. Idk just needed to vent about it cuz it bothered me :P. Also no one ever thanks the support D: lol
    Yesterday I had 5 wards up on the map, and got yelled at because we didn't have enough wards.

    My stock response to that lately is buy some then or stfu, because I am so tired of explaining every game I don't have the time or money to place 15 wards every 3 minutes xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelle View Post
    Yesterday I had 5 wards up on the map, and got yelled at because we didn't have enough wards.

    My stock response to that lately is buy some then or stfu, because I am so tired of explaining every game I don't have the time or money to place 15 wards every 3 minutes xD
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS A MILLION TIMES!!!! , everyone expects global ward coverage lol , I just dont have the gold cuz uk supports dont farm :P and when someone usually bitches at me to get wards i just say go buy them then, im not a ward dispenser lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Dupree View Post

    He is a god, and should not have to associate with lower class citizens, for his valor points, I mean thats ALL he could be there for, he obviously doesnt need gear, so blizzard should just credit his account with 500 VP a week, for his troubles

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    Yeah, he deserves these nerfs. There is no reason for me to go 12/1/25 as AP Tryndamere.

    And for those worried about getting the 100 fury, I had that and more every teamfight. His heals will still be max later in the game. It really only hurts his laning and insane split-pushing power.

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