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    I'm not sure about the PAX skins, but i think it was like that yeah.

    And yes, you can get ANY skin if you pay enough, but eventually the cards "run out" and the skin will become unavaible unless they do more codes.

    Region "unique" skins could be more like EUW; Italy got Gladiator Draven for free; It could be for example the only country that got it.

    Or a German Gragas skin. Stuff like that is really unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaj392 View Post
    Region "unique" skins could be more like EUW; Italy got Gladiator Draven for free; It could be for example the only country that got it.

    Or a German Gragas skin. Stuff like that is really unique.
    I don't see how it is unique the way you're describing. It's still available to everyone.

    I'm either interpreting unique in a way you aren't or I just don't know.

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    Do you mean unique as in related to a country or something, like Draven's, Cass' and the incoming Morgana's skin? If you mean that, then yeah, those are pretty neat and should be done more often or when ever possible.
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    The oktoberfest Gragas can only be bought by German players, Gladiator Draven by Italians. Morgana only for Latin America etc etc. Every country would get a champ with a unique skin.

    They are for a region; but still unique then. People still sees them but cannot obtain them. Unique, but perhaps still tradeable or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaj392 View Post
    The oktoberfest Gragas can only be bought by German players, Gladiator Draven by Italians. Morgana only for Latin America etc etc. Every country would get a champ with a unique skin.

    They are for a region; but still unique then. People still sees them but cannot obtain them. Unique, but perhaps still tradeable or something.
    That's just complicating things for no real reason.
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    How is that complicating things?
    Every country has something special for their own country. Even a simple "flag" skin could be already a good start for example.
    Do a voice over with lines in their language / with a accent of the country and voila.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaj392 View Post
    How is that complicating things?
    Every country has something special for their own country. Even a simple "flag" skin could be already a good start for example.
    Do a voice over with lines in their language / with a accent of the country and voila.
    When I read this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaj392 View Post
    The oktoberfest Gragas can only be bought by German players, Gladiator Draven by Italians. Morgana only for Latin America etc etc. Every country would get a champ with a unique skin.

    They are for a region; but still unique then. People still sees them but cannot obtain them. Unique, but perhaps still tradeable or something.
    I was pretty sure you were saying that skins like Gladiator Draven, Cass's greek skin and the new Morgana skin should only be available to the people from those countries, then you said about trading them to other regions. This is what you said, right?

    Because if that's what you said, and I'm pretty sure that's what you said, that's just complicating things for everyone outside of that country to which the skin is dedicated to.

    There's no point in making a trading system for skins, that are only obtainable in country X, in LoL.

    If that's what you didn't mean to say then I have no idea what you meant and you'll need to be more clear.

    (That was responding to the bolded part on the first quote on this post)

    Now, responding to this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaj392 View Post
    Every country has something special for their own country. Even a simple "flag" skin could be already a good start for example.
    Do a voice over with lines in their language / with a accent of the country and voila.
    Yes, I agree that Riot can make a buttload of skins with that idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaj392 View Post
    Unique, but perhaps still tradeable or something.
    If you can trade them, everyone'll just go to reddit or /lolg/ and get randoms to buy it for them.

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    Two things come to my mind which make region specific or country specific skins not a great idea.

    First one would be the question how to determine the country of a player? Would you track down their IP for that? Or let them fill out a survey (the flaw in that is obvious)? Or just go by client language?
    The latter is also unclear. If you take me as an example, I prefer the English voice overs over the German ones, so I use the English client.

    The second reason isn't a real fact. But by the recent price changes you see that Riot wants to put an emphasis on the fact that developing skins costs money. Sure they have a lot of that, but I think they wouldn't want to create a skin for each country so only a few players would buy it (not even every player in that country would).
    They could make exceptions of course, if they want to.

    I get that you are enthusiastic about that idea and it's good that you put so much thought into it.
    I just don't see it working for LoL.
    You are, however, free to post your ideas on the official forums for better feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaeva View Post
    Two things come to my mind which make region specific or country specific skins not a great idea.

    First one would be the question how to determine the country of a player? Would you track down their IP for that? Or let them fill out a survey (the flaw in that is obvious)? Or just go by client language?
    The latter is also unclear. If you take me as an example, I prefer the English voice overs over the German ones, so I use the English client.

    The second reason isn't a real fact. But by the recent price changes you see that Riot wants to put an emphasis on the fact that developing skins costs money. Sure they have a lot of that, but I think they wouldn't want to create a skin for each country so only a few players would buy it (not even every player in that country would).
    They could make exceptions of course, if they want to.

    I get that you are enthusiastic about that idea and it's good that you put so much thought into it.
    I just don't see it working for LoL.
    You are, however, free to post your ideas on the official forums for better feedback.
    Not to mention the "lulz" that would come from the resulting jealously and/or sterotypes.

    "Wow Riot must hate us look at this terrible X compared to glorious Y".

    "USA already has Hillbilly Gragas and Cowpoke Cass/TF, they are covered".

    "Riot I take offense to Mama Mia Nami, it is a slap in the face to everything my country stands for".

    And so on. Not worth the trouble for Riot.
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    There is already enough complaining about how each server gets treated, Region specific skins would make it so much worse for the reasons Kenai pointed out. Also, there are already a lot of limited skins. The growing list of legacy skins, holiday skins, and event skins. They do give out event cards as well. Each year Riot makes a new Riot skin that they hand out at events (and sell till it's debut event ends). Also, there are three PAX specific skins, though they didn't make one this year for some reason. Championship Riven was given out to people who attended the World Finals, only it was also available for purchase that week.

    There are plenty of limited skins, you just have to look in the right places.

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    Meh, ARAM picks the champions you are not skilled with and says: Go!


    Well, part of ARAM, I like the randomness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananarepublic View Post
    Meh, ARAM picks the champions you are not skilled with and says: Go!


    Well, part of ARAM, I like the randomness.
    The most fun part of ARAMs is trying to make even "bad" champions or comps work. I still feel like punching a kitten whenever I get Udyr or Warwick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drathos View Post
    The most fun part of ARAMs is trying to make even "bad" champions or comps work. I still feel like punching a kitten whenever I get Udyr or Warwick.
    Udyr is way worse!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drathos View Post
    The most fun part of ARAMs is trying to make even "bad" champions or comps work. I still feel like punching a kitten whenever I get Udyr or Warwick.
    But those are like da bess champs in ARAM :I
    Tip for Udyr: Build only HP and some MR and Armor, max turtle > bear > tiger > phoenix, where you don't max anything untill you can't put points into turtle and bear.
    Bear in, stun everything, turtle out.

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    Worst thing to get in ARAM is Nasus to be honest.
    There's no way in hell you're ever getting any Q stacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aydinx2 View Post
    But those are like da bess champs in ARAM :I
    Tip for Udyr: Build only HP and some MR and Armor, max turtle > bear > tiger > phoenix, where you don't max anything untill you can't put points into turtle and bear.
    Bear in, stun everything, turtle out.
    No way in hell Udyr is the best champion in aram, nor is Warwick.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    Worst thing to get in ARAM is Nasus to be honest.
    There's no way in hell you're ever getting any Q stacks.
    You can't yes but you can always just go tanky and just rush everything while putting the slow on the adc, if there's one, and enjoying the sustain with ulti, then
    proceed to die!

    But seriously, go AP, it's not really that bad but eh, both are bad to be honest but you can atleast push waves as AP.
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    I don't mind nasus built like a tank and yust trow your slow on whatever is dangerous and you want dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    You can't yes but you can always just go tanky and just rush everything while putting the slow on the adc, if there's one, and enjoying the sustain with ulti, then
    proceed to die!

    But seriously, go AP, it's not really that bad but eh, both are bad to be honest but you can atleast push waves as AP.
    Every time I go AP Nasus in ARAM people proceed to cry like manchildren (manchilds?) about AP Nasus being crap. Cause apparently Iceborn Gauntlet + Twin Shadows is full ap.
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    I think most champions "viability" in aram comes down to how well you can, personally, play them. I've had friends complain about shyvana in aram. I like her, personally but that's probably because I play her the same way as Leona in aram. YOLO! <dives into enemy team>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    Every time I go AP Nasus in ARAM people proceed to cry like manchildren (manchilds?) about AP Nasus being crap. Cause apparently Iceborn Gauntlet + Twin Shadows is full ap.
    If they cried about getting Nasus on their team I would understand but going with that build isn't bad at all, it's actually pretty good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelwryn View Post
    I think most champions "viability" in aram comes down to how well you can, personally, play them. I've had friends complain about shyvana in aram. I like her, personally but that's probably because I play her the same way as Leona in aram. YOLO! <dives into enemy team>
    True to some extent. Other peoples' skills also matter because when you play against player with skill X while playing champion A you'll do pretty great but as soon as there's a player with skill Y instead of X while you play champion A you might fail hard time or do not as good.

    Also depends on your and their team but yeah, generally, if you know how to play champion X you'll do better in there of course.
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