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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    Ins't that low? Or is it til 20 mins mark?
    If you ever play support or jungle then it's very high

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    Whenever people talk about the meta, they usually refer about the current meta. Considering that I started somewhere during the middle of S2, I've never know something other than the current ADC/supp bot, AP mid, Bruiserish top, and then jungle (although, I do suppose that jungle was more supporty tanks in S2 and play more of a carry role now). That makes me wonder, what was/were the previous meta(s)? Tried to do a google search, but really just got a ton of random answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaitoc View Post
    If you ever play support or jungle then it's very high
    Oh, well, yeah... but I was thinking more of those champions that should be CSing quite a lot, like mid, adc and top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lopk View Post
    Whenever people talk about the meta, they usually refer about the current meta. Considering that I started somewhere during the middle of S2, I've never know something other than the current ADC/supp bot, AP mid, Bruiserish top, and then jungle (although, I do suppose that jungle was more supporty tanks in S2 and play more of a carry role now). That makes me wonder, what was/were the previous meta(s)? Tried to do a google search, but really just got a ton of random answers.
    AD carry solo top/mid. Double bruiser bottom. Then you had roamers which were champions like Taric/Alistar/Pre-change Eve whose job was to just continually gank the enemy lanes (still had junglers) so you had 3 solo lanes.

    P.s. Fuck you. Just opened the repressed memories of pre-change eve Roam. God the terror.

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    There was also a moment in s2 where double AP was considered pretty much the only way to go, buying two WotAs. Popular combos were something like Kennen/Vlad, Cassio/Vlad, etc.

    Now, it's still used, but not considered as dominant as it used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarasun View Post
    There was also a moment in s2 where double AP was considered pretty much the only way to go, buying two WotAs. Popular combos were something like Kennen/Vlad, Cassio/Vlad, etc.

    Now, it's still used, but not considered as dominant as it used to.
    It was highlighted as being strong by Fnatic at Dreamhack 2011. They'd run double AP with Alistar/Gragas middle. Wasn't really a change in the meta though, I'd argue it's still the same meta, as you still have the same components - 2 solo lanes with a jungler + ADC/Support, maybe a twist to the current standard. It's still played and gaining momentum, with Ryze emerging as a good top laner, as well as Kennen getting popular again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittany Sn0w View Post
    P.s. Fuck you. Just opened the repressed memories of pre-change eve Roam. God the terror.
    Ohh good Ol' pre-change eve.

    I remember smurfs trolling newbies (me) who were just learning the game. 1x Boots of your choice + 5 Sunfires. Then you just stalked people in stealth slowly killing them. We didnt think of pinks/oracles so we had to either just put a tent under turrets and camp there or die Q_Q

    I also remember taking people from 100% to 0% in a combo. Fuckin' owned any squishy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mionelol View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBro View Post
    Ohh good Ol' pre-change eve.

    I remember smurfs trolling newbies (me) who were just learning the game. 1x Boots of your choice + 5 Sunfires. Then you just stalked people in stealth slowly killing them. We didnt think of pinks/oracles so we had to either just put a tent under turrets and camp there or die Q_Q

    I also remember taking people from 100% to 0% in a combo. Fuckin' owned any squishy
    Urgh. Around the roam time, the top junglers if people remember were your Rammus/Shens. Combine Rammus with pre-change Eve - You couldn't leave your tower range for fear of dying to a stun > Taunt > mid lane combo. It was beyond aggravating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittany Sn0w View Post

    Urgh. Around the roam time, the top junglers if people remember were your Rammus/Shens. Combine Rammus with pre-change Eve - You couldn't leave your tower range for fear of dying to a stun > Taunt > mid lane combo. It was beyond aggravating.
    I still don't mind a rammus as my team jungler, as long as the enemy doesn't use a counter jungler. His ganks are still scary all way throughout the game.

    And that 3s taunt late game is just a terror. I can still rmb thornmail rammus getting fat adcs killed by practically their own dmg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aydinx2 View Post
    I've heard dark whispers of AP Irelia.
    Nerf incoming
    What? You mean its a legit built?

    I thought that fella was just fooling around.

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    A little late but Merc Treads, Wit's End, Sunfire, BotRK, Mallet, GA is how you should end build Shy. Not this Zephyr + AD business. She puts out massive sustained damage and you can't do that if you're dead. She needs that massive tankiness to do anything for any useful duration.

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    Everytime i see nunu jungle in enemy team, i dont wanna play jungle -_-
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    Watching Voyboy duo queue with Edward, he's calling all da shots for his team haha

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    If I were to jungle with Hecarim. Which abilities would I level up at 1 and after that? W all the way then Q?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    If I were to jungle with Hecarim. Which abilities would I level up at 1 and after that? W all the way then Q?
    Well pre jungle change you'd level W first as it was basically a free health pot on wolves/wraiths. Now with the new spawn timers I don't kow, though I suppose W is still pretty damn good with a good leash.

    As for in general, you'd probably want to max Q first for it's ridiculous damage, Then W because by then you're in teamfights where it really shines and E last. R when you can of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    If I were to jungle with Hecarim. Which abilities would I level up at 1 and after that? W all the way then Q?
    W will make you lose a lot less health on your first pull (since you're getting it smiteless), so you put 1 point into it then take Q at level 2 and max that first. If you can't gank at level 3, put another point in Q and wait for level 4 to get E, if you CAN gank, put a point in E and rock out.

    All in all, W at level 1, then Q at 2, E or Q at 3, then max R > Q > W > E.

    Also, when the camps start getting tougher, activate your W after you've got the 2 stacks of Q to get a bit more hp out of it.
    Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    If I were to jungle with Hecarim. Which abilities would I level up at 1 and after that? W all the way then Q?
    Q->W->E (if ganking)/Q (if not)->whatever you didn't level at 3->max R>Q>W>E

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    Thanks all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpoker View Post
    What? You mean its a legit built?

    I thought that fella was just fooling around.
    Well it's not really viable, but yeah I've seen somebody use it before.

    Edit: With success.

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    Uhm... I just noticed I've been taking EL on J4 all the time now. Should I buy AG instead most of the time or is it situational/depending on the team's comp?

    As a jungler that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    Uhm... I just noticed I've been taking EL on J4 all the time now. Should I buy AG instead most of the time or is it situational/depending on the team's comp?

    As a jungler that is.
    If you're ahead - get EL, if you're even/dying too fast, get AG

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