It doesn't work like this. Real life is not a hollywood movie where you can take repeated fists to the face and just carry on. In real life noses crumble, teeth get knocked loose and jaws break. A well directed punch from your average joe will shatter your jaw, upper and lower, and leave you spitting teeth with a concussion - Imagine the assault of punches from a world champion boxer, with no gloves and no mouth guard and no rules. You, me, bruce or anyone at all will not be standing for more than a couple of seconds, and there is a very real possibility that the person would be dead or at the very least unconscious.
And also, size matters. In fights, size matters A LOT. Why else are there weight divisions in fighting sports? Why dont men fight women and seniors fight juniors. Due to the plain and painstakingly obvious fact that size and strength > skill alone.
Yes, Bruce Lee might win if Ali is restricted by silly rules. But then it's not really a fight. I can also beat up a grizzly bear if its just tied up and gagged.
It's actually a little bit frustrating that people just refuse to understand it.
I cannot believe this thread was even made lol this is no contest Bruce Lee would whoop Ali's ass straight up i don't care how big ali is or if hes a boxer have you watched his fights hes not that great
if you want to see a boxer go and watch Rocky Marciano fight now maybe Bruce Lee and Rocky Marciano now that's a discussion not this big pile of ISH
If you think size matters in fights your just bad size does not matter. I kinda lol'ed when i seen this i dont know who you are or how big you are but ill tell you what if i knew these things i would make you my Bitch just for the fact i know im bigger than you and you have no chance in a fight. HERP-A-DERP
Last edited by Derpadot; 2011-08-05 at 02:24 PM. Reason: I lol'd
"Fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee" Sure that's a great quote. But look at all awesome quotes Bruce Lee have pumped out. Philosophies that also crosses the line of fighting.
Bruce Lee would have won I think. He was insane. Trained in every part of his body, trained in so many arts. Though he himself said "I fear the one who has practiced one kick 1000 times more than one who has practiced them all 10 times" or something like that, which I leave to you to make a conclusion.
The image at the top is interesting. He probably knows better than me, so I guess Ali might have won. It's hard to believe though
Last edited by Patchwerk; 2011-08-05 at 02:47 PM.
Bruce Lee > Cassius Marcellus Clay
If the fight is without any rules.
Bruce Lee < Cassius Marcellus Clay
If the fight is with boxing rules.
Mike Tyson/Roy Jones JR > Bruce Lee/Cassis
If there will be a fight.
Tyson and Roy were the best fighters ever for me, their skill and amazing dodging every punch were incredible. There are no boxers like they these days.
Last edited by Eazy; 2011-08-05 at 02:48 PM.
In real life pressure points hurt, bones snap etc. You seem to think that Bruce Lee would have no defense at all, have you even seen the speed he achieves? Not to mention most martial arts are mostly build around defense.
Size matters yes, but Bruce Lee is one top trained muscle, which combined with ridiculous speed is one hell of a scary combo.
Really depends upon the first 10-15 secodns of the fight. If Muhammed Ali connects with one big punch, it could be all over for Bruce.
if Bruce can avoid a devastating blow, and close the space and either grapple and/or land some close in kicks/punches of his own he will win.
This reminds me of the early UFC fights (e.g. 1-10) where they'd match different styles and have less technical rules. All the ninjitsu / kung fu stars would lose fast, it was either the huge masses of humantiy (Tank Abbot comes to mind) or the grapplers (Gracies; Taktarov) would would win every match.
Queens rules boxing is an artificiality, designed to bring order and grace to a sport. That still doesn't mean that a single devastating punch from an Ali or a Tyson in his prime wouldn't cripple an asian martial artist.
One of the things I liked about Gracie's brazillian ninjitsu is that it mixes the economy of movement and physical discipline of asian martial arts, with the practicality of brazillian street fighting. Its designed to be the most effective way to take down a stronger opponent while physically protecting yourself. It might result in a 45 min match (where the opponent gets tired) but you win. THis is why UFC rules were changed to rounds... it was boring to watch. Modern UFC moved closer to pit fighting than its original incaranation.
Bruce lee hands down, boxer vs a cross martial artist trained in more then one stance = deadly.
Have any of you even seen the size of ali compared to lee?
Put it this way if lee could disable alis legs within i dont know 10 seconds or so sure he would win but 1 hit from ali would K.O lee realy the weight diffrence of 100lb's is just so much.
Lee isnt designed to take hits that hard it would just destroy him if 1 landed even a jab to his body would knock him 5 yards back just because of the force behind the punch.