Does anyone have updated stat weights yet? Left wondering is anything has changed..
ooopps feel a bit stupid now. I see its a little more balanced with haste slightly on top, but only just.
Impressions from yesterday raid.
Our dots hits like a wet noodle, or maybe less.
It just doesn't worth it anymore to multidot a pack of >3 so basically just VT one while running and then VT/DP/SW:P the main target switch to main tank and MS if there is a group of >3 is the best thing to do, try to keep VT up on all targets seems to be a great dps loss at the moment.
MB is a had hitter and should be used on cd.
Overall i noticed a slight DPS gain but i feel i got stripped off from my signatures spells, although dots are our main DPS source they just feel too weak and i don't like it much or at least i'm not used to it.
Well i couldn't keep up on the meter when i used the 4.2 tact, tab -> dot -> tab -> dot, i was bottoming the meters easily and i mean last even below the tank, with loading the main target with dots and vt one or maybe 2 and then spam MS i was topping them.
This are the numbers that i'm getting for my current gear ~365iLvl with 4.2 sicmcraft
Runned 10x 50k iteretions, Patchwerk,Elite,450, no DI with FM.Int 1.0000
So Haste is still the king by far when it comes to secondary stats and the gap between Mastery and Crit is got quite big.
I'll wait a bit before calling this numbers correct since the mastery doesn't feel that should be valued that high or at least not that higher than crit.
And this is with same settings and SimC BiS + legendary staff
Same, my numbers weren't too bad yesterday. Averaged 21k on WoL from 4/7. Certainly no more multidotting like before.
The biggest shock came when i uploaded guild WoL. Warlock and me same dps, he ranks 16 and me 180ish. I announce on vent i must be doing something wrong as a priest.
Last edited by Bobhoper; 2011-07-02 at 06:39 PM.
Warlock in my guild does 5-7k less dps than me and ranks on almost every fight. I'm top dps on almost every fight and never rank. I'm not doing anything wrong. THere's just far more shadow priests out there who know what they are doing and are geared well to boot.
Also bear in mind all shadow priests that rank get dark intent, and some get focus magic too. So you don't get that buff you might as well give up trying to rank.
You are absolutely right about there being plenty of easy to digest information on how to play SP. This subforum and howtopriest made it easy for me to change from healer to SP in a couple of months.
So after a week of raiding, trash runs, and valor farming...
It really seems like we didn't take a dip at all. DoTs are hitting a bit weaker, but it's barely noticeable. That and I'm getting crazy hits from MB during archangel, which seem nice.
Has anyone gotten the 2 pc yet? What happens if you drop out of Shadowform when Shadowfiend is halfway through the CD, then back in? (this would matter mostly if we're asked to do a Hymn in the middle of a raid.)
Given how it's coded, with similar things in the past, I'd be lead to believe that it cuts the cooldown when cast, and if you have to drop between now and it coming back up, for a Hymn (or something), then you'd be fine.
But if you're casting it outside of Shadowform, would probably not be in your best interests. Then again, I can't really say for certain, but given the simple logic Blizzard uses when writing these, it makes sense.
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Makes sense. I was just worried that dropping out of Shadowform would mean you lose the CD bonus, or that it'd create a bug where dropping/casting could spam that lowering of the CD (which would likely result in a nerf).
Edit: Basically, is it something active like a MF crit that lowers the CD, versus something that's passive with Shadowform that just subtracts the 75 seconds while Shadowform is active. Subtle, but significant difference.
So had a week to try out the changes and tbh i dont feel like they haven't nerfed anything, maybe i would have hit a million dps on shannox without the nerf
As a class we are in a very nice spot and i hope we stay here. Its nice to be playing a class at the right time and with my legendary under way its going to be a fun few months.
Link to tonights WoL http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ck78lc8qxzwtzw53/
After a couple raids for 4.2 I still believe hit cap isn't needed. I raided 5 hours last night, missed 6 spells (2MB, 1MF, 2VT, 1DP) on Alysrazor (normal). I think its the closest thing to a patchwork fight, cause you can cast while you move.
While its true is a measurable loss of dps to miss, those 6 spells were a drop in the bucket compared to the 42 million dmg done for the night.
I'm gonna stay between 15.5 and 16% hit. I still value haste highest to help proc more orbs. I'm not casting MB on CD anymore either, I'm waiting for an orb to boost MB dmg. (obviously mangaging ES the best possible). I value crit higher than mastery also, as the pet seems to return lots more mana. Critting often means even more pets and short CD. somone posted numbers that I agree with above. int>SP>Haste>>crit>mastery
If u miss a Mindblast and ES falls down, u lost the buff until next orb and MB expire CD( 2 mind blast missed in a fight can do a difference)
Last edited by Medivh; 2011-07-08 at 06:02 PM.
[QUOTE=voodoohoodoo;11855793]i havent played with my spriest in a pve environment for quite a while ( i havent played wow for 2 months ) but it seems that things are becoming more complex for spriests.
you still need flawless rotation , you need to keep on eye on stuff like ES, you definetly need DI in order not to under-perform, you need to time your dots with int buffs so that you wont need to refresh everytime you gain X proc, our utility isnt at it's finest nowadays ( practically inexistant ) and we are still charged with the -x% tax of being a hybrid class while performing solely a dps role and after 4.2 , probably a single target dps role ... it feels akward
on the other hand i dont know how well we will be able to perform in arenas. The burst should be buffed but trying to kill a LoS abuser ,which most of the times runs faster , with nerfed dots seems kinda problematic.[/QUOTE
Scuse the hell outa me but shadow priest have been one of the top dps specs in game this ENTIRE xpac dot classes have excelled above the majority your "hybrid" statement is a fallacy try being a "hero" class and losing to hybrids hell just be a melee dps in general and you already have an advantage as a ranged
Out of caster comparison you SHOULD be able to out dps
I read blue posts every day if new ones are up. The "hybrid tax" doesnt exist anymore. Not quoting or anything but in wrath they specifically said they didnt want multi role classes doing the same as single role dpser the "pure dps class".
IMO ele shammys have had the lowest numbers of caster deeps this xpac but most of everyone else claims the top tier of numbers caster wise
Yall deffinatly have a xpac favoring casters now you still have your self surviving tools n such to make great pvp opponents l2p everyone that dps is a dps role there is no support role in game technically besides a smite healing disc priest
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