That still doesn't make it alright for me to break into someones house change all the locks and board up the windows and when they get home they have a note reading "lol buy an alarm system have fun getting in." Yeah pure intentions...I would just be a dick for the sake of being a dick.
Just because you can rob a bank, doesnt mean you should do it.
And well i doubt LulzSec has pure intentions, since there is nothing pure in hacking. Furthermore fuckin about with the public is neither pure.
And someone who actually lets people randomly call in for sites to hack, well i really cannot find anything pure in that aswell.
Get a job, grow hairs on the **** and stop letting your parents support your pimpleface... and take a shower please. We can even smell you from here.
And tbh, they will never attack wow, cause that would blow their so called reputation to fuck so yeah.
Recently, LulzSec told the NHS (Health Service in the UK) that they had a security vulnerability, rather then hacking them. This is the sort of thing I think is where they should be focused. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13712377
But to attack game companies just because people asked, is immature and pathetic at best. I run a company network and attacks like this annoy me like hell!
Its getting rather annoying now tbh. I was sitting there happily mining.
I'm hoping they go after some big company with a big stick. Say Blizzard or Microsoft; companies who aren't afraid of fighting back. A 600M suit would put an end to this nonsense.
It's retarded kids like this that make stricter government control of the internet look like a good idea.
Actually, Mr. Lennon, I CAN imagine a world with no hatred, religion, war, or violence.
I can also imagine attacking such a world, because they would never see it coming.
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http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...s/carville.jpe
For once, Carville was a man ahead of his time.
how can you even call it hacking; it's just distruption. If they go in and take information or change something to an already made structure, I'll find their "hacking" to have at least some merit and benefit, showing the company they are vulnerable.
DDOS attacks aren't showing they are vulnerable, just that they can spam them to hell and cause issues. It's a traffic jam, not infiltration.
Your right they don't hurt the big companies. But man those big companies tend to have shareholders and those shareholders don't like any type of cash flow issues. There's an old saying..."Let the sleeping dog lay". Whatever this guys intentions are he may have pissed off the wrong people. "When" he gets caught, and he will, they're gonna drop a ton a bricks on him. Friend or foe of these big companys, they have friends in high places he doesn't.
Remember when Pakistan advertised the routes for youtube and took it down for some period of time for the majority of the world before people who had a clue and validated route announcements got it sorted? (google bgp pakistan youtube) What these groups do is nothing difficult and when expanded slightly could have similar consequences to that relatively non-hostile action. It looks like fun and games when "the man" is being affected, but what happens when this group schisms, attacks each others' infrastructure, and causes major outages to you and I as part of the process?
Pushing companies with bad security may expose some flaws, but criminally disrupting business is unacceptable. Lack of respect for the rule of law and due process will have further-reaching consequences than these script-kiddies and amateur social engineers are currently considering. One day, there will be consequences. I'm not talking about putting small fry in jail, I'm talking about serious regulations that watch and stifle communications traffic. No one wants that. These groups are working against their own long term interests.
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Yes, yes it could. The Internet has, up to now, stayed almost completely independently viable and has a vocal, extremely technical, and information-libertarian group watching and running its backbone. If that group is affected and motivated to the point where operational issues that affect the fabric arise because of people like LulzSec and Anonymous, the minds behind the internet could drop an unbelievable hammer.
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too bad these 18 year old bottom dwellers in their parent's basements cant even touch places like google with their spam.
if they even tried google would chuckle, laugh, and ask who tried to tickle them?
if you think DDOS attacks reveal a security problem, you misunderstand security. This is service issue, not a security issue.
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And in case all they've done is packed a crowd on your lawn so you can't get in your door. They haven't broken into anything, just caused a nuisance.
I was wondering why the Eve Online server suddenly went down, how annoying.
Would i support hackers that show companies where they can be attacked without harm done?
Sure
Would i support "Hackers" that for the "Lulz" spamm Login server till they are unable to respond and thus damaging companies, even small ones?
Hell no!
The attacks on the Minecraft and the Eve online Severs serve no purpose exept being annoying.
Its a real shame that people need to do something this idiotic to feel good about ther accomplishments.
I don't want to live in your world. The means are just as important as the ends. I can bring about world peace, but it means living in a tyrannical dictatorship, think all those distopic futures you read about/see in movies.
And they're now greater than all these groups, and render their judgment on the world? Punishment? Really?
I never claimed everything they've done is bad. I know groups affiliated with Anon in one way or another have done some great things (gotten child abusers/animal abusers/pedophiles ect. arrested) and I applaud them for that. But I can not agree with the method that these guys are going about in order to prove their "point".
Never Forget, Hitler also only wanted Wold peace(in a sense) and a better world for all Airan. Thats why he did all that horrible stuff.
So in palpableimmunity´s world he would be cool, right?
PS:
Disclaimer:
By no means do i support nor glorify the horrors Hitler did, its just an extreme example to show immense idiocy and ignorance.
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