Are you weighting the averaging of the stat values to reflect the composition of fights in firelands?
Hey Twin, wasn't Mirror's value lowered since we're using MB pretty much on CD and overriding it's proc. Also, I figure DMC is also still undervalued since you can recast right as buff is about to end to extend its usefulness.
When all of this is taken into consideration would the list go Necro(H) > DMC > Necro(N) > Mirror (H) > etc?
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This needs to be stickied
Also, a small update -- a few of the upgradeable Valor items weren't showing up (they are now). Also, due to the large number of the "of the" items so far, I've changed the number of items displayed in each section to 30, up from 25. Cheers!
I just did some testing on a dummy and the spellpower from DMC affects the damage of a dot for the whole duration even if DMC proc wears of directly after casting the dot
Squwal I am slightly confused what you mean here. If you mean that you get the proc, you cast the DoT, and it rolls with the buff even after the buff falls off that should be correct because Dots are not dynamically updated.
However, if you mean that you have the DoT up already and you get the proc and without recasting the DoT it starts ticking for more... that shouldn't be how it works at all.
I meant that the dot rolls with the buff after the buff falls of as a responce to Twintop saying
The only procs that I modify the length of are Mastery because ES persists after the proc falls, unlike every other proc that buffs a stat or spellpower.
Oh in that case I think you are misinterpreting what he is saying. All DoTs will keep their buffs until they are recast, so that is actually included in how he does the calcs by default/ The reason mastery ones are extended even further is our mechanics allow us to abuse those procs "horribly".
Basically, you get a mastery proc, have an orb and cast MB to get ES up, recast DoTs. Then say right before the proc wares off you recast MB (with an orb) and refresh ES for another 14 seconds which will keep the higher amount of orb damage even after the proc goes away. Any DoTs you refresh during that time will keep that buff, also you can recast them right before that ES goes away to extend the benefit of the proc even further. You can't get that much extention from any other stat proc than Mastery.
I´m aware of the way mastery is working with procs but, what I meant was that by recasting DP + VT just before DMC expires you can nearly double the duration of the proc for these two DoTs wich should result in an even higher rating for the trinket .
The values of procs/on use are based upon the PP values for a pre-defined BiS profile. If you were to change this profile to include different trinkets, all of the PP values would shift. I don't hand modify the numbers my models spit out to maintain a level of unbiasness with the results. Others do make hand modifications in an attempt to better match what they believe actual results might be, such as from a WoL parse. I shy away from this because in many cases there are other external/fight specific effects that change the behaviour of a proc (cause it to occur more often, amplify the effect, etc.). This isn't inherently incorrect or better/worse then my pure-mathematical approach, just different.
Ultimately it comes down to, once again, this list is a tool and isn't exact, shouldn't be taken as gospel, etc. Sim your own toon to see how valuable each stat is for your character and make your own judgement calls when it comes to gearing decisions.
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It would a great sticky. Is there a reason why it hasn't been?
Previously, there was a link inside one of the stickies (when the minimalist stickie model was in place). As of right now, Kilee has been kind enough to supply a link to a copy of this list that is posted over at HowToPriest.com in his guide. I'd suspect this suffices as having a link to my list readily available in the mods' eyes -- I can't say I blame them either, since more people look at his guide than look at my list (Kilee's guide is awesome, BTW).
Fair enough Twintop, besides, I've just bookmarked the thread in my browser. Can't complain really.
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