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  1. #621
    You were able to bubble the tombs for the first couple weeks but they quietly "fixed" that some time ago.

  2. #622
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkura View Post
    While on the topic of Hagara (not relevant to the thread, though, sorry), have you guys been trying out staying on crystals by taking ice waves with bubble or running around them on the inside with hand of freedom to get longer nuke time? I tried doing it for fun this week but ended up getting knocked back and our priest gripping me . You'll get seperated from the group but you should always be able to cleanse the debuff (assuming you spec it, of course) if you would end up getting it with HoF on CD and no dispellers close.
    Works well on the 3rd or 4th crystals, and hand of freedom or your bubble can also cleanse the debuff which should be done inside the ice bubble, so don't need to worry about it.
    Btw, you shouldn't get any knockbacks unless you got hit by falling ice.
    Last edited by Berianther; 2012-02-14 at 01:37 PM.

  3. #623
    Hello everyone,i am in dilema which trinket to use on SPine hc,atm i have eye normal,and creche hc.So as far as i heard rotting skull should be used there so i am not completly sure which one to replace...thanks

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    EoU and Rotting Skull for Spine is pretty ideal for the controlled burst you're probably looking for.

  5. #625
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantoms View Post
    EoU and Rotting Skull for Spine is pretty ideal for the controlled burst you're probably looking for.
    Correct, also try and keep up the stacks by damaging bloods somehow before tendon appears. (Eye of Unmaking)

  6. #626
    Quote Originally Posted by thegoodrogue View Post
    Correct, also try and keep up the stacks by damaging bloods somehow before tendon appears. (Eye of Unmaking)
    You should be hitting stuff to get your holy power timed anyway so I don't see any problem stacking EoU.

  7. #627
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkura View Post
    You should be hitting stuff to get your holy power timed anyway so I don't see any problem stacking EoU.
    Yeah, but the fight can get pretty hectic. Just reminding him/her.

  8. #628
    I find even Ultraxion to be more hectic than Spine, lol.

  9. #629
    Quote Originally Posted by thegoodrogue View Post
    Correct, also try and keep up the stacks by damaging bloods somehow before tendon appears. (Eye of Unmaking)
    Judgement on cooldown is enough if damage on bloods is an issue.

    Oh yeah Lawkeeper, you might already know this, but you can ignore expertise completely for that fight too. You don't need any for tendons.

  10. #630
    What about Hideous Amalgamation ?think u need exp for that :P

  11. #631
    Yeah. Initially, I reforged out of expertise for the tiny damage improovement on the tendon. After the 5% nerf (that brought along a total 19.something) hp nerf to tendon, it's simply un-necessary.
    You'll want to speed up the fight as much as possible. For that, I truly advise you to stay with expertise so that amalga can go down faster. This will make your fight much faster, and therefore much easier.

  12. #632
    Obviously Creche tends to sim out well with its ICD, but am I crazy for really liking heroic Apparatus over the LFR Creche just because of the slight difference in ICD? If Creche isn't 100% best case scenario, then it's just not going to do all that well, but I can almost guarantee Apparatus is going to be near-best-case every time I set it off because I can control it.

  13. #633
    I've always thought AoK:H even beats normal Creche. Now I'm confused when you're asking this, Petrus.

  14. #634
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkura View Post
    I've always thought AoK:H even beats normal Creche. Now I'm confused when you're asking this, Petrus.
    Sometimes it does.. sometimes it doesn't. It certainly has more DPS spread since it's mastery and even with lower crit you could get lucky and crit a lot with that extra mastery, but at the same time, it has less consistency in some cases.
    Last edited by Reith; 2012-02-28 at 03:49 PM.

  15. #635
    Of course I'm aware of certain trinkets being less useful on some fights. The question I'm asking is if any version of Creche which is not 410 would beat AoK:H on a tank/spank fight (like Ultraxion). With a big sample, obviously.

    I haven't even tried getting LFR Creche so this being brought up surprised me. If someone has both AoK:H and Crech 384/397 it would be great if you could Sim them both with 50k iterations on Patchwerk/Ultraxion style fight to compare.

  16. #636
    Think that has already been done in the original post.

    Answer is simple LFR creche(thumbs up extremely reliable) beats aok:H(thumbs up very unreliable) on Ultraxion unless ya have really slow kills like 5:30+(GoAK).
    Last edited by Neldarie; 2012-02-28 at 07:24 PM.
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  17. #637
    I just got my hands on the 410 Creche last night and so have been running LFR's to test out the best way to use it and set up powa auras for my ICD etc.

    The only question I have is that sometimes Im having Find Weakness proc on my first J as we pull, which costs a few seconds waiting to get the next two Holy power to be able to pop cds, if this happens it can push the second (and if the fight is long enough third) cds out of sync with Find weakness, if this is the case is it worth just stopping attacking the target for say 5 seconds as the ICD of creche runs out to allow the AW/Zeal CDs to catch up and properly allign with Find weakness again?

    Ive tried that and although my sample size is small it seems to be helping for sure. As well as ensuring to 'pool' 3 HP for the end of the OCD of creche, it the ICd is less that 5 seconds (roughly how long it takes to generate 3HP) I done use TV to ensure I have 3 HP for find weakness, again bad idea or good? seems to be helping overall dps but with a small sample size could just be RnG.

  18. #638
    Equiping ICD trinkets triggers the 30-SecCD that you get while equiping on-use trinkets?

  19. #639
    Not with Creche, at least. Apparently, a 115 seond ICD activates when you re-equip it

  20. #640
    Which trinket for H Madness 25? I have H Creche, H Apparatus, and RS. I do not have BLF, even in LFR.

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