So how are you dealing with them on 25 man? On 10 man they were no trouble to down as the tank alone, but on 25man with 31.5 mil health and no extra time the dps required to kill them before phase change is around 217K. I have been able to hold around 140K - 150K with 5.5% hit an 18 exp and i dont really see an extra 2.5% hit an 8 exp making that much of a difference.