New Computer System

[DeltrusDisc]

Forget OCZ SSDs. Go with Cruicial.

This, get a Crucial m4 128GB SATA III 6Gb SSD, cheaper and less failure rate than OCZ's 120GB SATA III SSDs. =/

[Jurwi]

But i guess ips is pretty expensive right? Don't know if i want to spend so much Money xDAs for the SSD, rumors are rumors :>

Rumors aren't rumors when backed up with statistics and numbers.

---------- Post added 2011-07-29 at 10:14 AM ----------

But i guess ips is pretty expensive right? Don't know if i want to spend so much Money xDAs for the SSD, rumors are rumors :>

They are, yes. And I wouldn't waste my money on one if I didn't know exactly why would I even need one, nor was sure if I wanted to spend the extra on it.

Someone linked a 24" LED IPS panel the other day for 200 USD.. But yes, they are generally a bit more expensive, but worth it from what i hear.

Yes I bet he linked.

[Xarganthos]

sorry it was just said it was a rumor, didnt know there are statistics and such^^

so about gpu, my question isnt answered, should i buy a gtx 570 with 1280gb or 2560gb? i think the 1280 probably would be enough. i'm planning to use two monitors but only one for gaming. but i'm the noob here

[Djinni]

sorry it was just said it was a rumor, didnt know there are statistics and such^^

so about gpu, my question isnt answered, should i buy a gtx 570 with 1280gb or 2560gb? i think the 1280 probably would be enough. i'm planning to use two monitors but only one for gaming. but i'm the noob here

a 1280MB​ is plenty :-)

[Xarganthos]

sorry XD know its just mb, dont know why i'm tipping gb ^^

so i've updated my system since the pc builder said the antec 300 has no 2,5" slot i had to change the case.. but this is the "new" system:

CPU Cooler:		Noctua NH-U12P SE2
GPU:		Gainward GeForce GTX 570 Phantom
CPU:		Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
Powersupply:		Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2
Case:		Sharkoon Scorpio 1000
SSD:		Crucial RealSSD M4 2,5" SSD 128 GB
MoBo:		GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3
HDD:		Western Digital WD5000AADS 500 GB
RAM:		Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
DVD-Rom:		LG DH-18NS

i still see no need for more than a 500gb hdd

[Deleted]

sorry XD know its just mb, dont know why i'm tipping gb ^^

so i've updated my system since the pc builder said the antec 300 has no 2,5" slot i had to change the case.. but this is the "new" system:

CPU Cooler:		Noctua NH-U12P SE2
GPU:		Gainward GeForce GTX 570 Phantom
CPU:		Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
Powersupply:		Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2
Case:		Sharkoon Scorpio 1000
SSD:		Crucial RealSSD M4 2,5" SSD 128 GB
MoBo:		GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3
HDD:		Western Digital WD5000AADS 500 GB
RAM:		Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
DVD-Rom:		LG DH-18NS

i still see no need for more than a 500gb hdd

Only thing is price/gigabit is at its sweet spot at 1tb, so your arguably paying a premium price/gigabit for getting less space if that makes sense.

[Deleted]

If you want to spare money you should downgrade that gpu to a AMD 6950 2gb or GeForce GTX 560Ti, the GeForce GTX 570 gives about 10-15fps more in some games, but you pay alot more for the performance.

Both the 6950 and 560Ti will be able to run anything on 1080p today

You could also downgrade your cpu cooler to Cooler Master Hyper 212+, it can take that cpu to 4.5ghz, maybe more.

Also 4gb ram is plenty for gameing.

[Xarganthos]

i dont want to spare too much money but i dont want to change the gpu. i could change the cpu cooler but i have a noctuah in my current computer and its nice.

as i said earlier i have plenty of extern hdds, and dont need that much

[Kouki]

maybe i'll get a new system and wanted to know if this setup is okay... also i'm looking for a good 24"+ tft with hdmi but dont know which are good.

please pardon my english i'm german speaking


CPU Cooling: Noctua NH-U12P SE2
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 570
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
Power Supply: Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2
Case: Antec Three Hundred
SSD: OCZ Vertex3 2,5" SSD 120 GB
MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3
HDD: Western Digital WD5000AADS 500 GB
RAM: Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1333 Kit 2x4GB
DVD-ROM: LG DH-18NS 18/52 SATA

= EUR 1.160,--


OS will be Windows 7 Home Premium, dont need to buy it. About the GPU, it doesnt matter if its ATI or Nvidia, i just knew too little about ATI Cards. I'd like this system to be as cheap as possible. Dont know much about current hardware so i'm asking you for help =/

Can i make a suggestion?
i7 2600k, do not buy the 2500.
And at least an 850w power suppply.
And the noctua NH-D14.

[Xarganthos]

why not the 2500k?
isnt 850w going overboard?

[BicycleMafioso]

Can i make a suggestion?
i7 2600k, do not buy the 2500.
And at least an 850w power suppply.
And the noctua NH-D14.

Yea, let's get a 850w PSU for a system that needs 450w! /sarcasm

why not the 2500k?
isnt 850w going overboard?

The person giving you advice gave you very bad advice.
The i5-2500K isn't in any way worse than an i7-2600K for gaming. It isn't 69 USD worse in other aspects either, or whatever the cost-difference is. It will be worse, but not 69USD worse when it comes to videorendering.
850w is overkill even if you had gone with two of the same graphics card, so you can be sure you won't need that for one. :P Anything 500-550w will still be overkill, but it's hard to find quality PSUs these days at those low ranges.
The one you chose is good enough.
The updated build looks very good and balanced.

[Skelly]

Current build looks great. I wouldn't change it.

[Deleted]

I just want to mention that you can OC a 560 ti to be within 2-5% of a stock-clock 570. If I were you, I'd either go for a 560 ti (lower the cost) or pay a bit more to get a 580 - but that really is just my opinion.

Also, as HDD's tend to be really cheap these days I'd buy at least 2 and put them in RAID0, especially seen as you have the SSD as a boot-drive (I assume). I would up the RAM as well and go for at least a 1600MHz kit, Corsair VENGEANCE or XMS3 is to recommend as budget picks. And unless you really want to fool around with overclocking your 2500k to max, I'd recommend settling with a 212+ as it will do just fine for a ~4.5Ghz OC.

[Skelly]

I just want to mention that you can OC a 560 ti to be within 2-5% of a stock-clock 570. If I were you, I'd either go for a 560 ti (lower the cost) or pay a bit more to get a 580 - but that really is just my opinion.

I hate this argument in all but a few distinct situations.

Sure you can overclock a 560 Ti to be as fast as a stock 570, but you can overclock a 570 to be as fast or faster than a 580. Its just an endless repetitious cycle that means nothing except in a few situations:

The early 6950s that you could flash to become full 6970s and probably overclock more from there.
Some distinct video cards have an above average propensity for overclocking. It was either the GTX 460 or 480 I was reading that wasn't uncommon to get overclocks of 30%+

[BicycleMafioso]

It was either the GTX 460 or 480 I was reading that wasn't uncommon to get overclocks of 30%+

My GTX460 was able to stabilise at ~1050MHz on core, up from 675 stock. That's a +55.6% overclock. Decent-ish. :P
The HAWK-models are said to have been cherrypicked, so much that they almost guarantee that they will cross 1GHz.

EDIT - that 1050MHz is more than the comfortzone of my HD6970, for instance, whom starts at 880MHz. I can stabilise it as far as 1075MHz, but I have to use a very aggressive fan-curve; I prefer to have it lower, so I can have it at 18% during full-load.

[Deleted]

I hate this argument in all but a few distinct situations.

Sure you can overclock a 560 Ti to be as fast as a stock 570, but you can overclock a 570 to be as fast or faster than a 580.

I've heard rumors that it's rather easy to fry a 570, but I'm not sure if this is true.
And I really was only stating my own opinion and what I would have done. I still believe that it's a smarter choice to pick up a 580 instead of a 570, even considered the price difference. But, if you're working on a budget build and want to cut costs, the 560 ti should, in my opinion, be the card to look at.

[Xarganthos]

i'm not an overclocker, so i wont push it too much.

@ marest
my current build has the corsair 1600mhz kit

i guess i'll buy it, alongside with a Samsung Syncmaster P2770FH^^