Alternative Energy's

[Deleted]

WTS solution to cold fusion(hey that rhymes! *lulz*).

Do we have any bidders?

[Venziir]

Dude they are in Australia

They want to control the internet

Bob Brown of the Greens want less Anti Media towards his gay party

Julia Gillard lies, & Talks horribly..

She aint a world leader

None of this has anything to do with communism. None.

[DaS Energy]

Australia , with Communist Dictators Messers J.Gillard & B Brown

Have just introduced a Carbon Tax

However, they are really promoting alternative energy

Any Ideas.. as to an alternative energy besides coal

Hello Aussiedude,

There is numerous alternative energy beside Coal. However the technolgy to exploit such is being fought tooth and nail by all Political Party. Have you noted none of the alternate energy promoted by politicians is of threat to Coal. The most ineficient of these be Solae Voltaic, next comes Wind mMills driving a generator comonly incorrectly named wind turbines, next is Solar Collection for heating liquid to gas, then Geothermal heating liquid to a gas
but never allowed any where near a powerline.

All parties of Government have been well aware on new technology doing away with water as the liquid and its replacement with Co2, yes the Carbon of the Carbon Tax.

An example a 350 megawatt Steam turbine requires a Steam force of 175 bar which requires it be at heat of +550* Celsius. Whereas Co2 gas at +100* Celius has a force of 10,000 bar producing 20,000 megawatts. The use of Co2 has further advantage in that it provides its own cooling after passing through the turbine generator. 100* Celisus can easily be raised by Green Fuels, +550* Celsius requires non Green fuel such as Coal and Nuclear.

All politician are well aware to the muscle of Coal to effect an electoral outcome.

A step back look at the Carbon Tax reveals it be Coal protectionsism with those company burning Coal to have their Carbon Tax paid by Soveriegn monies taken in tax directly or indirectly from all citizen. Thus devaluing Green Electricty and opposing Government motive to elimate Black Electricity.

Gillard and Labor are on record to so infuse the Carbon Tax into Government opperation it cannot be withdrawn.

[Jaxi]

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lol nope.




OT, Solar or Nuclear are the only "real" if you will alternative sources at the moment. Nuclear however, does have a horrible track record and produces waste, which has to go somewhere.

Solar is not dispatchable energy. It cannot be used as a primary power source. It is secondary.

How does Nuclear have a horrible track record?

[wdmshmo]

Solar is not dispatchable energy. It cannot be used as a primary power source. It is secondary.

How does Nuclear have a horrible track record?

Most of our nuclear waste has a half-life of over 4 billion years.
The next largest portion is about 700 million years.
The third largest portion is 24 thousand years.

For radioactive material to be considered safe, they have to undergo 10 half-lives.

The amount of this waste we produce each year grows by 12,000 metric tons. Where do you propose we put these 2 story buildings that wont be safe for 240,000 to 40 billion years?

[Dacien]

Most of our nuclear waste has a half-life of over 4 billion years.
The next largest portion is about 700 million years.
The third largest portion is 24 thousand years.

For radioactive material to be considered safe, they have to undergo 10 half-lives.

The amount of this waste we produce each year grows by 12,000 metric tons. Where do you propose we put these 2 story buildings that wont be safe for 240,000 to 40 billion years?

Rocket it into another galaxy? Same thing we should do with our garbage >.>

[hellboyy]

Rocket it into another galaxy? Same thing we should do with our garbage >.>

trying to launch nuclear waste up into our atmosphere is a very risky and stupid idea considering how much can go wrong with rocket launches.

[saberon]

If Greens weren't so fucking obsessed with saving obscure species of ants, we could just fuck up a few eco-systems with Hydro plants. As an added bonus, more dams = more water, yay! Because like, we're running out and shit...

[Dacien]

trying to launch nuclear waste up into our atmosphere is a very risky and stupid idea considering how much can go wrong with rocket launches.

Maybe we could set up a special launchpad in a secluded part of the Arctic? So that way, if things go bad, all the toxic debris will fall harmlessly upon uninhabited land!

[zorkuus]

Maybe we could set up a special launchpad in a secluded part of the Arctic? So that way, if things go bad, all the toxic debris will fall harmlessly upon uninhabited land!

I hope you're joking. If not, you would be the last person I'd choose to manage an operation of safe nuclear waste storage.

[haxartus]

The answer is fusion. I'd like to see more money put in to fusion research instead of other power sources.

[NeftBat]

Most of our nuclear waste has a half-life of over 4 billion years.
The next largest portion is about 700 million years.
The third largest portion is 24 thousand years.

For radioactive material to be considered safe, they have to undergo 10 half-lives.

The amount of this waste we produce each year grows by 12,000 metric tons. Where do you propose we put these 2 story buildings that wont be safe for 240,000 to 40 billion years?

Well first of all you're just listing half lives of U238, U235 and plutonium, none of which are really what causes nuclear waste to be a radiological hazzard.(Its really the fission products you have to worry about)

As for the issue of waste itself, in the US atleast, all the high level waste would fit into a football field 10 meters deep. If we would actually reprocessed the waste that could be reduced by as much as 90%. Even so thats not alot considering its 50 years worth. And what we do with the waste we have is not a technical issue but a political one. Yucca mountain is the perfect place for long term storage. If you're wondering how we can be so sure that Yucca can keep waste in place for a long enough period of time look up the Oklo reactor.

[Deleted]

This is the future of vehicles

[critterkiller]

I find them quite a pleasing sight... compared to a nuclear power plant.

Same here, also why not put many of em where there aint any people, and when i say people i also me the local auborigeniers or how you spell it :O