Content patches from now on are supposed to be more frequent and smaller. 4.1 was a half patch. 4.2 was a half patch. Based on what we've been told to expect, 4.3 should be a half patch. The only content that 4.2 introduced was a half-raid and the most tedious daily hub to date. Now they're promising 4.3 will be the biggest content patch since Cata launch. So now they're waffling on faster releases. That's a big problem if they expect
4.2 was announced the week after 4.1 to prove that they would be releasing content faster. We're 4 weeks overdue for a 4.3 announcement. We'd have to have an announcement in the next couple of weeks for 4.3 to even be out before Blizzcon.
Edit: 4.2 was release before the end of the fiscal quarter. June 28, according to Wowpedia.
Wasn't there gonna be a Caverns of Time raid this expansion for the War of the Ancients? I think that will probably be in 4.3
My Hubby is one of those 300,000.. but that's not cause he hates wow or anything, but its cause 1. he had a shitty computer and it wouldn't hold up the game and 2. he's now deployed for the next year =P i didn't play for half a year cause my computer went shitty too =( but now i got a new one and i'm back! hahaha
Abyssal maw and War of the Ancients? that's my guess anyways.
Finally, I don't need 'the best raid gear' - I never said "HEROIC RAID TIER". I said Tier Set. that's it.
And why? Because it's my goal in the game to collect an armor set. Humor me, what set is there for a casual to complete? You say tier 11? I tell you NOPE, blizzard left the token requirements on, aka Nef or cho. I do not raid; I do not enjoy raids. in WotLK, I could, slowly but surely, obtain the tier set over a long period of time. by the time I was celebrating my last tier piece, the raiders were halfway through heroic modes and had not only better loot in EVERY OTHER SLOT, but they had the same tier suit I did, with some pieces heroic level.
That was what I played for. Each expansion, I looked forward to collecting my tier set. That was what motivated me to play. Locking two pieces? the ONLY TWO PIECES with unique polygons? Yeah, blizz can go fuck off until they fix this. If you want your unique raid loot, go get your Sulfuras, the extinguished hand, or some other awesome drop loot. If you want me to pay for your raids each expansion (admit it, raids get the most budget put into them) then you've got to give me something to work for.
And "why get better gear" WHY PLAY? Wow is an RPG at heart - the game is all about increasing numbers to increase performance so you can increase other numbers. The game only gets easier with better loot. But more to the point; please direct me to the DUNGEON SET I can collect as a dungeon grinder?
WHATS THAT? THERE ISN'T A DUNGEON SET? Gee imagine that. They could put in a dungeon set for people like me to work for. instead they give us hand me down raider gear with half the set locked away behind raid end bosses.
Why should you expect 4.3 to be half a patch when it's confirmed to be bigger than 4.1 or 4.2? How are they waffling on faster releases if they have yet to prove that? All we know is 4.3 will be bigger than any previous patch of this expansion. For all we know it could be out in 2 months. So they have yet to prove their announcement of faster content patches wrong yet.
You're forgetting the fact that the Firelands raid was being designed while 4.1 was being designed as well. We have yet to find out if that's the case for whatever is in store for 4.3, so we shouldn't just assume that an announcement for it should come so quickly after a major content patch like 4.2. We'll likely get information on it before Blizzcon, with Blizzcon being more focused on Deathwing's raid and the next expansion. Obviously I'm just assuming that.
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"Later this year" - whan GW2 and/or SWtoR is released too?"Biggest patch ever" - Regardless of semantics here, someone really belives it will not be Deathwing one? Never seen War of the Ancients to be sonfirmed anyway.OR... Deathwing raid IS in the same tier as War of the Ancients???
i call bullshit on casuals. you're not casual, you're antisocial. you cannot possibly hand out more loots or water down the game any more than it is already.
they give you tier items AND THEN WHAT? sit around and do nothing with it? because you're not raiding, or else you'd already have a way to get the items. you just want a perpetual carrot, you can't stand it that you've gotten worst than the best gear and that's it. so? they add tier pieces as "easy to get" and you're now complaining that you cant get heroic. they give you heroic and you complain that you cant get the optional boss gear.
bottomline is raid itemization should only be accessible to raiders, because thats all its useful for. you opt out of raiding, you beat the game when you finish the last set of daily quests / grind the last rep.
sorry, but everyone i know that quit is because its way too easy to beat the raids and they have no interest in silly grinding to beat heroic versions which are not different / unique enough to matter to them. they are just sick and tired of
1. chasing the carrot
2. gear reset every expansion
3. constant fiddling with balance
4. things STILL out of balance randomly
5. pvp boring / arenas have too much dependence on comps and not enough on skill
etc. etc. i personally enjoy the few hours a week i put into wow and its cheap enough that even if i didn't play i'd keep my sub going.
I am so sick of Blizzard doing all the "talking" and none of the "walking". "Patches will be more frequent in Cataclysm!" I can not say this was a lie, because patches HAVE came more frequently but that's with us comparing Cataclysm's patching to the hell that was WTLK. Sure they are coming more frequently but not as fast as they made us think. Now they are promising "The biggest patch in CATACLYSM" really? I sure as hell hope so considering we did not get a whole hell of a lot with 4.1 or 4.2... I did enjoy the Molten Front Daily quests, they were a nice change. Though, Firelands was rather disappointing in certain aspects. Forgive me, I am tired but that's pretty much what we got in 4.2 was it not? A new Daily quest hub and a rather small raid. I can smell disappointment with 4.3 from a mile away - I do hope I am wrong though. As for the loss in subscriptions, this and SWTOR's release might actually kick Blizzard in the ass to do SOMETHING creative with WoW. New Battleground, new Raid and a few more dungeons will be great for a while. In my opinion they need to take another look at Rated Battlegrounds...
So this follows the lines of what alot of people have been saying. There are a lot of players gone. For good? Probably not, but some of them for sure. My problem is raiding is obsolete. It's an outdated system, a limited numbers of items drop with random chances for each one, with a controlled(via guild) or random(via PUGS) reward system. The time and effort aren't worth it for raiding anymore. I say more open style daily bosses with a fixed reward system. Make solo or 3 man dungeon content, make open world PvP town based objectives(Like capturing Tarren Mill or the Crossroads) award conquest points with a 3 hour down time for recapture. Just some ideas.. WoW has really become lackluster and boring. Though that could be because I had played for 5+ years. I feel like the entire game is under potential, obsolete, and half assed. I doubt I'm alone.
Not surprised about the subs, it's been going down since the start of the game, sorry, but OMG Patch 4.3. And it's not hard to be the biggest content patch since Cataclysm. First major patch was just two re-done instances and a quest, the second was just a raid and new dailies area + an annoying chain quest. This patch will hopefully be a new raid, and a new dungeon, not redone, and maybe a new daily hub (>.>), either Vashir or CoT, or both! I dunno, but I can't wait to see what it is. I'm gonna place bets between November and December, before the holidays.
"The biggest update in content since Cataclysm" conveys to me that they think that this patch will be larger than the expansion, unless they just poorly worded it. I think they later is true, because Cataclysm as an expansion had a lot of content, the most out of any expansion to date.
4.1 was a non-patch to any raider. No upgrades available = not interested.
I'm so uninterested in it that i don't bother doing even the dailies now to cap valor. who cares? eventually i'll have more valor than i know what to do with, and the worst part is you don't even need full gear to beat the raids. by the time i get to the point that i would have needed it, it'll be nerfed anyway.
they've taken away any requirement for me to worry about flying through content because it is simply so easy to do so. Shrug.
You simply can't hide from the fact that making content more accessible actually loses subscribers faster because there is no prestige or value associated with obtaining items.
when it was *required* that you were 1 out of 40 people in a raid and had to dedicate time to obtaining upgrades, people CARED more. Now they don't, because anyone with any amount of skill can beat the content in last tier's gear. Zzz.
they hand casuals the ability to raid and the casuals ask for "tier loot without raiding."
you can spend less time in firelands than it takes to do a random heroic in a pug and clear a boss or two. on my server they're pugging heroic FL already.
blizz can't win. people whine about content being too inaccessible, so they make it easier and then people whine about there not being enough. Oops, kids clearly have no idea about things like development budgets.