yes, another help thread :(

[Cullum]

Hello.

I've been scouring the forums both here and on ej and official, yet i cant seem to find any that pertains to my problem.

Having some dps issues on fights where similar geared/specced hunters outperform me by anywhere from 2-7k dps on a regular basis.

only fight i can keep up is on baleroc 25 since i aint on shard duty. this is sort of depressing tbh since i know my gear can do better. I do not have a log at hand, might get one later today after raid if i can get the ppl to upload to WoL since im no computer geniouse i have enough trying to keep up on fights.

My Armory is : http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...nhaus/advanced

ill try and explain my rotation as best i can, wich i try to follow as best i can.

Pre-pot (if no hero RF) aimedx1 SSx2 aimedx1(readiness if no hero is called) SS till full focus and aimed x2 (RF if no hero, if no hero in setup i use pot nr 2 in sync with RF nr2, in that case RF waits till pot is off CD) SS till about 80ish focus, StS, CS, SS and so on while keeping my CS on cd absolutley as often as i can. i do miss a second from time to time on CS due to low focus when it gets of cd.

I'm usually at about 20- 26k dps depending on the fight ( this is firelands fights ) .

Any and all tips and info will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.

[Zuchi]

From what I know, 2-7k dps difference between same geared people is usually a case of missing global cooldowns, and delaying your special shots. Do you spend 1-2 seconds in fights not using any dmg-ing abilities whenever you have to move/avoid fire etc? If you do that, you should think of how to solve that problem. If the ability that's keeping you from DPS-ing is on a timer, you should try to pool focus so you have enough for 2 arcanes when the timer hits, without delaying your Chimera ofc. Or you need to bind your Fox/Hawk aspect switch macro to an easy to reach keybind.

Also you shouldn't Keep your RF for second pot, you need to pop both of them back to back with Call of the Wild and pre-pot at start, even where there's bloodlust, pop it anyway so you have insane amount of auto-shots, and very low (1.0s preferably) aimed shots so you can maximise Aimed Shot during Careful Aim. Also you can have RF off-cd again earlier if you pop it back to back.

You have Tier11 4piece set bonus, and you have 1400+ haste, how many Steady Shots you fire between each Chimera? You should be able to fire 5 steady and 2 arcane without delaying your Chimera. If not then you're wasting all that haste. And replace 1 steady with AiS! proc every 2nd proc, other times replace arcane with AiS! proc to prevent going focus negative.

Also I notice you have Trueshot Aura, are you in a 25man raid? If so that talent point is wasted, better get 1/2 Rapid Killing instead, which grants you 50 focus everytime you killing blow adds (except Rhyolith adds). Works really well for fights like Alysrazor, Beth'tilac, Ragnaros (Not 100% sure about rag... Molten Seeds?). If you're in 10man I guess you can drop a point from Termination and get 1/2 rapid killing.

And lastly you have mastery hand enchant and reforging out of mastery, you completely wasted a hand enchant. Get agility.

[Cullum]

Ty for the reply, i'll take it to heart.

yes i do miss gcd's from time to time, especially on beth'tilac(p1) due to all the damnd targets. the hand enchant ill fix as soon as the servers get online here in EU, i completly forgot about that one. As to delaying shots, it can happen that i miss a 1-1.5 or 2 sec for CS due to , lets face it, my own faliure to pool enough focus when i need it! I'll take your advice to good use i hope and hopefully close the gap today in FL. TY again for taking the time to answer

[azzureuss]

So, looked a bit at your gear and...
- for hard-cast Aimed Shot
> wrong enchants put: peerless stats for chest, greater critical strike for back and 50 haste on gloves
> wrong glyph: change chimera with rapid fire
> wrong reforge: you can increase haste and physical crit by lowering mastery.
My advice is to use Arcane Shot as focus dump and use Aimed Shot only when in CA, RF phase and when it procs.
- for Arcane Shot in rotation
> wrong enchants put: peerless stats for chest, greater critical strike for back and 65 mastery on gloves
> wrong glyph: change chimera with rapid fire
> wrong reforge: you can increase haste and physical crit by lowering mastery.

Your rotation should be at start: CS+2xAS+StS then push RF and burn boss with AiS in CA phase, use Readiness, and dont stop AiS casting in rotation till every RF buff is off and off CA phase. In normal phase i use 2xSS-CS-2xAS, all depends on your haste. More haste more SS.
go elitist-jerks web page and read more there.
Hope it helps.

[Zuchi]

So, looked a bit at your gear and...
- for hard-cast Aimed Shot
> wrong enchants put: peerless stats for chest, greater critical strike for back and 50 haste on gloves
> wrong glyph: change chimera with rapid fire
> wrong reforge: you can increase haste and physical crit by lowering mastery.
My advice is to use Arcane Shot as focus dump and use Aimed Shot only when in CA, RF phase and when it procs.
- for Arcane Shot in rotation
> wrong enchants put: peerless stats for chest, greater critical strike for back and 65 mastery on gloves
> wrong glyph: change chimera with rapid fire
> wrong reforge: you can increase haste and physical crit by lowering mastery.

No. Why you suggest getting Haste/Mastery enchant on gloves when you have perfectly good Agility enchant from Wrath? Also suggest getting Mastery enchant & then suggest reforging out of mastery. doesn't make sense. general rule of thumb is get as much agility as you possibly can from Gemming & enchanting. You can get hit/haste/mastery/crit from proper reforging. Agility will net you the best DPS boost.
Why you suggest getting RF glyph instead of Chim? With T11 4 set Chimera glyph is the best.

Your rotation should be at start: CS+2xAS+StS

No no, you shouldn't use Arcane Shot during CA. Never ever.

You can completely forgo Chimera and Serpent sting as well (2 gcd's which could've been Critical Steady or Critical AiS hit) and just spam Aimed & Steady during CA. If you have around 40% crit during raid, your Aimeds & Steadies are all almost guaranteed criticals during CA. And those crits will proc your Piercing Shots further increasing your DPS during CA. You can use Chimera but it's not guaranteed crit so recommended to forgo it since 4.2 as CA is only 10%. Maximise Aimeds & Steadies during the first 10% of boss. Then at 89.9% you can apply your SrS and do Arcane dump/Aimed dump depending on your playstyle but most importantly keep chimera on cooldown always.

[azzureuss]

seems you know everything.. so why are you asking for help?
PS: chimera glyph gives you 1 sec less for cd and you sayed you cant use CS every cd off.. also.. aimed shot glyph is what you need as AI hardcast. And the rotation is when you are not using hardcast AI rotation, after CS+2xAS+StS you pop up RF and start normal CA phase rotation, but i wrote that already.

[Zuchi]

seems you know everything.. so why are you asking for help?

Sorry are you retarded? I never asked for help

PS: chimera glyph gives you 1 sec less for cd and you sayed you cant use CS every cd off..

Where did I say that?

also.. aimed shot glyph is what you need as AI hardcast

Aimed Shot glyph gives only 5 focus when you Critical Hit with it. It's value is very little next to Chimera Shot glyph when you use Chim shot for 80% of the fight instead of 20%.

/sigh.