1. #12741
    Brewmaster CrossNgen's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Right behind you
    Posts
    1,418
    Quote Originally Posted by aT1C View Post
    Airplanes is one of the safes use of travel.




    No, they're the doorways to hell!

  2. #12742
    Immortal SirRobin's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Counciltucky
    Posts
    7,145
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelimbror View Post
    Ok, it's PRESS ONLY so people in beta still can't start talking about it. Just throwing that out there so people don't think they can go nuts now.
    Yeah...

    They must have blackmailed the Gaffer with incriminating photos!
    Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.
    Who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor.
    Who had almost stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol.
    And who had personally wet himself, at the Battle of Badon Hill.

  3. #12743
    The Unstoppable Force Kelimbror's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Bear Taco, Left Hand of Death
    Posts
    21,280
    Quote Originally Posted by SirRobin View Post
    Yeah...

    They must have blackmailed the Gaffer with incriminating photos!
    Yeah it's an odd move to let people start making money off of the game, but people who care beyond financial gain can't even talk about it.They must have borrowed their PR manual from EA. Either that or Wildstar is Communist which someone referenced earlier...
    BAD WOLF

  4. #12744
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelimbror View Post
    Ok, it's PRESS ONLY so people in beta still can't start talking about it. Just throwing that out there so people don't think they can go nuts now.
    Yes and this is the big deal part. Though it does help a lot of those of us considered press

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelimbror View Post
    Yeah it's an odd move to let people start making money off of the game, but people who care beyond financial gain can't even talk about it.They must have borrowed their PR manual from EA. Either that or Wildstar is Communist which someone referenced earlier...
    It's actually getting to be pretty common. I mean look at how Blizzard has run their entire closed beta for Hearthstone with no NDA at all. I honestly sort of like it that they are limiting it to actual press though, but I am biased so /shurg. Anywho there's little reason for them to not do this. Even if the reviews aren't "OMG THIS GAME IS THE SECOND COMING" it still gets people talking about them and hypes everything a lot... and they don't have to pay anyone for the advertising.

  5. #12745
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelimbror View Post
    Yeah it's an odd move to let people start making money off of the game, but people who care beyond financial gain can't even talk about it.They must have borrowed their PR manual from EA. Either that or Wildstar is Communist which someone referenced earlier...
    It's not that odd really. Blizzard do "press tours" prior to each expansion where they allow certain websites to publish new information to their users and dump hundreds of screenshots etc. The only difference here is they've also allowed the sites to stream some content too.

  6. #12746
    The Unstoppable Force Kelimbror's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Bear Taco, Left Hand of Death
    Posts
    21,280
    Quote Originally Posted by Arlee View Post
    It's actually getting to be pretty common. I mean look at how Blizzard has run their entire closed beta for Hearthstone with no NDA at all.
    No NDA means everyone can talk about it. That's preferable and the complete opposite of what is happening here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    It's not that odd really. Blizzard do "press tours" prior to each expansion where they allow certain websites to publish new information to their users and dump hundreds of screenshots etc. The only difference here is they've also allowed the sites to stream some content too.
    Big difference between press tours, which average people can't attend, and closed'open'betas. It just reeks of over control of a fabricated image as opposed to wanting an open dialogue on your game. If press can start dropping videos and stream for money, why shouldn't someone on these forums be able to say "I played an engineer to 15 and the game is cool". So many basic questions that could be answered beyond the class reveals very surface level stuff.
    BAD WOLF

  7. #12747
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelimbror View Post
    No NDA means everyone can talk about it. That's preferable and the complete opposite of what is happening here.
    Yes, but usually you always have an NDA for closed beta. That was my point really. And it's no different than specifically inviting streamers so they can stream your game. In both cases the companies are going for free advertising.

  8. #12748
    The Unstoppable Force Kelimbror's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Bear Taco, Left Hand of Death
    Posts
    21,280
    Quote Originally Posted by Arlee View Post
    Yes, but usually you always have an NDA for closed beta. That was my point really. And it's no different than specifically inviting streamers so they can stream your game. In both cases the companies are going for free advertising.
    Maybe. My opinion is based on additional knowledge that I can't really talk about, the limited NDA lift, and kinda just how everything has been unfolding. I can't properly explain, but it definitely feels weird compared to other betas. That's really all I'm saying.
    BAD WOLF

  9. #12749
    The Unstoppable Force Puupi's Avatar
    15+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    23,388
    Quote Originally Posted by Arlee View Post
    Yes, but usually you always have an NDA for closed beta. That was my point really. And it's no different than specifically inviting streamers so they can stream your game. In both cases the companies are going for free advertising.
    WoW betas didn't have NDA. If they had, I don't remember it
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

  10. #12750
    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    WoW betas didn't have NDA. If they had, I don't remember it
    They had a NDA until the open beta.

  11. #12751
    The Unstoppable Force Puupi's Avatar
    15+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    23,388
    http://www.twitch.tv/mrderpmonster

    I think this guy got banned. He thought he was part of the "selected press"
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

  12. #12752
    The Unstoppable Force Kelimbror's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Bear Taco, Left Hand of Death
    Posts
    21,280
    Quote Originally Posted by Gungrir View Post
    They had a NDA until the open beta.
    That's basically saying they had NDA in FnF Alpha, which isn't saying much. I've been a part of two WoW betas and didn't have to sign an NDA for either one and they were invite only, so...yeah. But anyways, I digress. I'm not challenging NDA as those are useful to allow testing without letting a completely radically broken version of your game to ruin your future. Just stating that this specific occurrence is weird. I'm also not the only one who thinks so as people are very confused about what is going on. On the whole it's more a problem with communication and how it has transpired, which is why I referenced EA.
    BAD WOLF

  13. #12753
    The Unstoppable Force Puupi's Avatar
    15+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    23,388
    Quote Originally Posted by Gungrir View Post
    They had a NDA until the open beta.
    That's not true. At least not for MoP. I don't remember how it was in WotLK and Cata, though. I was in TBC, WotLK and MoP beta. I "skipped" Cata beta. And as for TBC, I have no clue whatsoever. I did do some videos and took screenshots, though.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

  14. #12754
    Honestly though... they told the people who were allowed to talk exactly what they are allowed to talk about and where they are allowed to talk about it. So like if you were a writer for a site they would have been said "this specific writer can talk about x, y, or z when making posts on w website". Or for Streamers they would have said "hey you streamer person you can talk/show on your stream channel only x, y, or z". I feel like people get into a habit of trying to assume way too much or don't really understand how systems work.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    That's not true. At least not for MoP. I don't remember how it was in WotLK and Cata, though. I was in TBC, WotLK and MoP beta. I "skipped" Cata beta.
    MoP was different from the get go Fairly certain Vanilla did have NDA at first. But that was sooo long ago at this point.

  15. #12755
    I am Murloc! Sy's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Somewhere Blue
    Posts
    5,827
    i was in cata beta, and i at least don't remember any nda.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viscoe View Post
    Honestly, I feel like the chua should have gotten gender differences whereas the Mechari should have been unisex.
    that would've made sense. but as you said, it's much easier to make a somewhat sexy mechari than a somewhat sexy chua. and we can't have non-sexy female mmo races, now, can we? :I
    It is actually TERRIBLY difficult to make a female-looking chua. I guess that's sort of the point but it's very, very easy to make a male-looking chua, so... they sort of failed at gender-neutral.
    that sucks :/

    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    Real men wear pink. Pink fur doesn't make things feminine :l
    pink mustache? \o/

  16. #12756
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelimbror View Post
    That's basically saying they had NDA in FnF Alpha, which isn't saying much. I've been a part of two WoW betas and didn't have to sign an NDA for either one and they were invite only, so...yeah. But anyways, I digress. I'm not challenging NDA as those are useful to allow testing without letting a completely radically broken version of your game to ruin your future. Just stating that this specific occurrence is weird. I'm also not the only one who thinks so as people are very confused about what is going on. On the whole it's more a problem with communication and how it has transpired, which is why I referenced EA.
    I agree with you but i also understand why mmo developers like to have one, if people can freely exchange information about the game and some people read up on it and make their judgment based on a unfinished product it can really hurt them.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    That's not true. At least not for MoP. I don't remember how it was in WotLK and Cata, though. I was in TBC, WotLK and MoP beta. I "skipped" Cata beta. And as for TBC, I have no clue whatsoever. I did do some videos and took screenshots, though.
    I was talking about Vanilla WoW, sorry that i wasn't clear, i am also pretty sure TBC had a NDA.

  17. #12757
    Deleted
    Quote Originally Posted by CrossNgen View Post
    No, they're the doorways to hell!
    That's a car.

  18. #12758
    The Unstoppable Force Kelimbror's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Bear Taco, Left Hand of Death
    Posts
    21,280
    Quote Originally Posted by Endre View Post
    That's a car.
    I keep seeing all of these things other than "Hellmouth" which of course is the only proper doorway we should be discussing.
    BAD WOLF

  19. #12759
    High Overlord xdrop's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    The Undercity
    Posts
    186
    So the wildstar NDA is over?

  20. #12760
    High Overlord Illumy's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    163
    Only for Press People and just lvl 1-15.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •