T12 Healer 4pc

[cakeisalie]

Anyone with the 4pc healer set able to say how it performs? As Disc, I already have 378 ilvl non-tier chest-shoulders-helm with better stats and tier 2-pc. I'm not sure it's worth the DKP and stat loss for the new 4pc proc heal flame effect.

My armory http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...eisalie/simple

[Franklinn]

From what I've heard it is better for holy. However it might be nice just for the spirit, disc still needs a little bit of that.
I would have to find out how it interacts with smite/atonement healing. Also, since you are going to be running out of stuff to loot sooner or later, the extra proc heal might not be such a bad thing.

[kakle]

it is very much worth getting 4set and you possibly shouldn't have wasted so much DKP on the offset gear, but too late now. id suggest you get all tier but head as its the hardest one to get heroic and possibly the easiest offset to get heroic(well for my guild anyway).

The proc itself is very much worth it and I dont know why you think you are losing stats by getting tier, every stat is damn near equal and no super must stack stat(personally i like the extra spirit), its a free heal that is although rng very strong. If you want raw figures check out worldoflogs, wont be hard to find an example, sorry that i cant post my own, there was a thread about this exact same topic, i suggest you search for it so you can see the log.

[cakeisalie]

Switching out my non-tier chest and shoulders (most likely for me) in order to get the 4-pc bonus would give me +462 spirit but at the cost of -204 mastery, -211 crit, -35 haste. I have some reforging to do, but as it stands I'm comfortable with mana at the end of most fights, and losing throughput stats for more spirit isn't something I'd go for usually.

I guess I just haven't seen the logs for a Disc Priest (10m preferred) using the 4pc bonus.

[Zka]

From what I've heard it is better for holy. However it might be nice just for the spirit, disc still needs a little bit of that.

It's T12, not T11... GEEZ!

T12 proc has a 45s icd and likes to proc pretty fast after the icd expires. It's considered to be a pet, so healing meters and wol will have trouble counting it adequately. Search for Cauterizing Flame in the log to see it. It's unaffected by your healing bonuses like vital spark. Can crit. It's worth a total of 3-4% effective hps boost and really rarely saves the day, it's just random heal padding. Still better than nothing.

---------- Post added 2011-08-22 at 08:37 AM ----------

I guess I just haven't seen the logs for a Disc Priest (10m preferred) using the 4pc bonus.

We were mostly wiping on alys hc so my logs aren't that informative I think.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-lr5qf7fsdefaifx7/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...izing+Flame%22

[Ellumina]

This was my first week running with my 4set and I have logs for it if you're interested in taking a look. I'd say it is around 5-6% of my total healing done on average.

The logs. I don't heal H Rhyolith or H Baleroc.
H Shannox (extremely low healing on this fight, mostly overheals =/): http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=1205&e=1461 | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...izing+Flame%22
H Alysrazor: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=2542&e=3172 | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...izing+Flame%22
H Beth'tilac: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=1225&e=1643 | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...izing+Flame%22
H Majordomo: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=4358&e=4926 | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...izing+Flame%22
Ragnaros: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=6187&e=6658 | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...izing+Flame%22
H Nef: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...ce/?s=48&e=572 | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...izing+Flame%22

I would say the Cauterizing Flame procs about once a minute (as someone mentioned, 45 sec ICD). You should note though that it DOES scale with Archangel (as does Eye of Blazing Power), and the heals can crit (though clearly not affected by DA). I personally like our 4set. It's literally free healing once a minute for 50k+. Only thing is it counts as a separate entity on WoL, so it isn't included in your healing done.

Aside from considering the 4set bonus, the stats on our T12 pieces are pretty great aside from our legs. I'm personally making my helm my offpiece once Rhyolith decides to drop my darn random enchantment helm.

EDIT: I WANT YOUR HELM ='[ But heroic.

EDIT #2: I added a second link to each kill, to include Cauterizing Flame spell from the expression editor.

[TheTrueM4gg0t]

It's T12, not T11... GEEZ!

ähm..... GEEZ!!! he is actually talking about the spirit he gains from t12 directly (non t12 dont have any spirit!) and not talking abotu t11 GEEZ!!

well if you consider regorging, and the fact that no secondary stat is much worse than others, I would defently go for the t12 4set bonus!
even one single proc will probably do more healing than the differance of having a bit more of secondstats A compared to secondstat B

[DarkPhoenix]

Our disc priest was saying he didnt think it was all that good.

Til we pointed out it did 10.4% of his healing on Majordomo (no idea how).

[Tihr]

It's really good. Like others have mentioned, it usually varies anywhere between 5-10% of your healing.

[Deleted]

The 4 set bonus looked quite lackluster, but has turned out to be quite good. As others have reported, it does somewhere between 7-10% of my healing on my last Alys and MDS 25. I run Disc on those, for reference. I believe our resto druid was a bit miffed that I got so many freebie heals.

[Deleted]

From my logs of a total of 16 wipes on raggy normal 10 man ( stupid people not moving ) last night, Cauterizing Flame healed around 2% of my healing per fight as Disc and 2% total over all 16 wipes so for me I don't consider it a great amount of healing though with that said when it does proc off its = to 5 flash heals and it has a pretty good range.

I recently got T11 head piece and would consider using two set T11 for the heal crit instead but with the drop in stats swapping the gloves from T12 and losing that 2% of extra healing it's not worth it, but if I could get my hands on 2x heroic T11 items I would gladly switch over since heal is my go to spell for spamming and DA stacking and at the moment it's got an over all crit rating of 45% so an extra 5% on top would boost it's healing and DA healing by a decent amount.


Actually in terms of Cauterizing Flame think of it being equal to having a shadow priest in your group as it heals for around the same amount in 10 mans.

[Mikayo]

There's another thread that's been posted with several other WoL links that all came to the conclusion that 4pc is worth having (for disc and holy) over the extra stats you can acquire by not using set pieces.

[Arrelliana]

Tier for priests is very valuable just from the spirit aspect since so many offset pieces have no spirit. The 4 piece is a straight throughput proc and a decent boost to healing at that. The throughput boost will outweigh the stat gains from more optimal offset pieces.

[Deleted]

Tier for priests is very valuable just from the spirit aspect since so many offset pieces have no spirit.

That depends on if your Disc or Holy tbh most Disc priests are reforging all spirit out, if you are Holy or use a holy off spec then yea the Tier set items have loads of spirit on them which you will need.

[Eyevory]

For what it is worth, recount reports Cauterizing Flame as 8 or 9% of my total healing, but world of logs says it is about 2%. Yes, it freaks everyone out (what is that flame!? run away!)

[Disegame]

For what it is worth, recount reports Cauterizing Flame as 8 or 9% of my total healing, but world of logs says it is about 2%. Yes, it freaks everyone out (what is that flame!? run away!)

Lol, this makes it worth it alone to me but in my experience like everyone elses its usually in the 7%-12% of my healing done depending on the fight and if it procs when its most needed/useable. Most handy for fights with heavy/constant aoe but as disc its also kinda acts as a extra free mini tank CD.....if only it wasnt rng/icd