Blood Elves. What's next?

[kage]

Love'm or hate'm the little doubt that belfs are here to stay! After they've been a character race for years, but that in itself is rather the point. Bloodies much like dranei were the prototype new races and for this reason they're were problems that couldn't be antispated. While I'm sure there teams working all this and more as we speak... who wants speculate? I do! I do!
Things like:
-What will they put where those statues of kael are in SM (a naaru one, of those brooms?)
-Just who are those three guys in the palace (we know little more that their names).
-More important how does that motley crew = functioning government?
-What about the 1/2 of SM that was a quest zone will it ever be fixed & what would happen to the quests if it was repaired?
-Did they ever fix that wretched problem? they ended up accepting the light or something end of BC did that fix it?
-What about the weird facisty elements in SM? Peaceful protester being brainwashed right there in the bazaar & no one blinked or those folks getting ruffed up at the gate. It was creepy and never fully explained.
-Where are belfs npcs that don't ride sparkle ponies there has to be some?
edit: WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN IF SM WERE SUDDENLY FIXED? HOW DO THE BELF LEADERSHIP WORK? STOP @!#$ AROUND & SPECULATE OR LEAVE!!!
edit2: I'm sorry I really wasn't that clear was I... anyway. Mostly I was adressing a what-if of a belf zones revamp & the fact that the current command structure looks 'bout as sound as the west side of SM

[Jpeg]

This seems like a pure troll thread. Belfs are a race in WoW lore...I really don't understand where you want this thread to go?

[kage]

This seems like a pure troll thread. Belfs are a race in WoW lore...I really don't understand where you want this thread to go?

Nope serious. belf lore's stagnated in past years but will most likely be expanded upon in a future patch. I'm just wondering what others might think it would be?

[iceberg265]

I am not sure where this thread is going either...

[Razdornwaz]

This thread confuses me... I'm not sure how to respond to this since it was so poorly written and generalized. I think if the initial post was more so straight forward than sardonic then you might get answers more so leaning towards what you are looking for.

[Gandrake]

they are obviously going to erect states of me in my underwear taking a big wet smelly crap on the burning legion and kael'thas

and maybe rubbing up against a female pally healer, because thats how i roll

[kage]

This thread confuses me... I'm not sure how to respond to this since it was so poorly written and generalized. I think if the initial post was more so straight forward than sardonic then you might get answers more so leaning towards what you are looking for.

It's rather rude make fun of how someone speaks. I'm not being "sardonic" what do you think they'll put where the kael statues are? are the regent and the other two like the dwarven council or what? Are belfs still turning into wretched or was this resolved while I wasn't looking? Meenies

[Karteli]

Was there something to be discussed here? It doesn't make sense, and most of the points are wrong assertions, in random order, or unrelated.

[Elementium]

Behave kids.

If anything he's asking what the threads title is. What's next for blood elves?

First of all.. change the BE leaders model to one more accurate to that of the comics/manga (I know his name.. cant spell it). In one manga he had an eye patch and looked pretty bad ass.

Add Choco..I mean the BE mounts to the world so they're more than just a "hey look final fantasy!" easter egg.

Blizzard needs to take them more seriously though. Right now they're cool, but only as a anime fan service and joke machine. With Blizzard making the jokes. I like Blood Elves to a point because they do have good lore, but they could use some more depth in-game.

[kage]

Behave kids.

If anything he's asking what the threads title is. What's next for blood elves?

First of all.. change the BE leaders model to one more accurate to that of the comics/manga (I know his name.. cant spell it). In one manga he had an eye patch and looked pretty bad ass.

Add Choco..I mean the BE mounts to the world so they're more than just a "hey look final fantasy!" easter egg.

Blizzard needs to take them more seriously though. Right now they're cool, but only as a anime fan service and joke machine. With Blizzard making the jokes. I like Blood Elves to a point because they do have good lore, but they could use some more depth in-game.

THANK YOU!!! not sure what a "choco" is but if the belf was at least taken as serious as oh say a gnome or goblin (it really is that bad) more could be done with them.

[Elementium]

Actually it's Chocobo :P didnt want to spell it wrong so I cut myself off.



Look familiar? it's a Final Fantasy creature.

One issue with Blizzard to me is they have a certain amount of immaturity that is refreshing at times but tends to go over the edge on occasion. With Blood Elves it's like they started and said "Hey let's do this for those weird anime fans, and the men are flamboyant..let's make their /silly command really show that".

[Karteli]

I'm not being "sardonic"

-Where are belfs npcs that don't ride sparkle ponies there has to be some?

Grrrr..

What's next for blood elves?

Well taking a step back, I think they could have an enhanced lore if their starting city would be connected to the world. You can get there, but when you are actually there it seems so distant to everything else, and somehow trivial - don't know how to explain it. I had my Blood Elves, but I usually got out of there ASAP and went somewhere where there might be other people, like the barrens. My mains were Blood Elves, but I never followed their lore.

So what could be next for Blood Elves might be to have a bigger presence of the lore in the game, and not just mainly some petty squabbles you saw when you were a new character.

[MephistoXVIII]

Things like:
-What will they put where those statues of kael are in SM (a naaru one, of those brooms?)
-Just who are those three guys in the palace (we know little more that their names).
-More important how does that motley crew = functioning government?
-What about the 1/2 of SM that was a quest zone will it ever be fixed & what would happen to the quests if it was repaired?
-Did they ever fix that wretched problem? they ended up accepting the light or something end of BC did that fix it?
-What about the weird facisty elements in SM? Peaceful protester being brainwashed right there in the bazaar & no one blinked or those folks getting ruffed up at the gate. It was creepy and never fully explained.
-Where are belfs npcs that don't ride sparkle ponies there has to be some?
edit: WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN IF SM WERE SUDDENLY FIXED? HOW DO THE BELF LEADERSHIP WORK? STOP @!#$ AROUND & SPECULATE OR LEAVE!!!
edit2: I'm sorry I really wasn't that clear was I... anyway. Mostly I was adressing a what-if of a belf zones revamp & the fact that the current command structure looks 'bout as sound as the west side of SM

Replacing the much more dictatorial leadership of Kael'thas is the current transition of the Blood Elf people. A lot of them were still picking around the drudges of their political understanding until the Sunwell incident. It's unfair to say that Sin'dorei lore has been stagnating lately because they are nowhere near the worst at the moment, considering both Draenei and Gilnean lore kind of being dropped in and never really mentioned again. It's possible to say BE's got more attention than any of the other added races. Still, it's true.

I'm not sure how the current leadership works, but they're in a state of transition. The current council appears to us like a caste system but it's never really expressed in the general aristocracy that the city runs on. Sin'dorei are a monarchy without a king, devastated still by the Scourge, and would have been repairing if not for Trolls and Demons threatening to destroy the world on one of their summer vacation islands.

Interestingly enough the Wretched weren't mentioned after BC was over. Mana addicts, both those that have withdrawls and have perhaps taken in too much. I'm supposing the restoration of the Well has restored the effects of those who were once addled. Like the Orcs, the effects of their addiction to Fel energy will remain for generations. The eyes will stay for a long time and people will be peculiarly nasty and deceptive. That's an interesting bit of genetic study for you. Call Fel energy radiation and assume walking around Chernobyl would just leave you with angrier children. But there should be no more Wretched after the rest of them have died or have gone through extensive rehab to cure the horrible, misshapen cysts of magic on their skin.

There isn't much drastic to explain. Others can go into more detail, but I'm staying general. A lot of people have clamored for Lor'themar to take the throne instead of being the substitute. Other people say Grand Magister Rommath is going to betray everyone and reveal himself as a Twilight. The ranger guy is already just a ranger guy. That sums it up on how they can keep BE lore active.

[Dalantia]

The most likely thing to happen is continued stagnation.

[kage]

Replacing the much more dictatorial leadership of Kael'thas is the current transition of the Blood Elf people. A lot of them were still picking around the drudges of their political understanding until the Sunwell incident. It's unfair to say that Sin'dorei lore has been stagnating lately because they are nowhere near the worst at the moment, considering both Draenei and Gilnean lore kind of being dropped in and never really mentioned again. It's possible to say BE's got more attention than any of the other added races. Still, it's true.

I'm not sure how the current leadership works, but they're in a state of transition. The current council appears to us like a caste system but it's never really expressed in the general aristocracy that the city runs on. Sin'dorei are a monarchy without a king, devastated still by the Scourge, and would have been repairing if not for Trolls and Demons threatening to destroy the world on one of their summer vacation islands.

Interestingly enough the Wretched weren't mentioned after BC was over. Mana addicts, both those that have withdrawls and have perhaps taken in too much. I'm supposing the restoration of the Well has restored the effects of those who were once addled. Like the Orcs, the effects of their addiction to Fel energy will remain for generations. The eyes will stay for a long time and people will be peculiarly nasty and deceptive. That's an interesting bit of genetic study for you. Call Fel energy radiation and assume walking around Chernobyl would just leave you with angrier children. But there should be no more Wretched after the rest of them have died or have gone through extensive rehab to cure the horrible, misshapen cysts of magic on their skin.

There isn't much drastic to explain. Others can go into more detail, but I'm staying general. A lot of people have clamored for Lor'themar to take the throne instead of being the substitute. Other people say Grand Magister Rommath is going to betray everyone and reveal himself as a Twilight. The ranger guy is already just a ranger guy. That sums it up on how they can keep BE lore active.

It's a little early to draw conclusions on the gilneans they (or at least Genn) will be centering in a major book coming out 10 days from now. Even if books don't matter to you at least they have Genn and Darius. Also exp. not over yet. Dranei will get a 2nd wind when they make a Nether exp/patch but belfs are less certain

[Romobama]

Love'm or hate'm the little doubt that belfs are here to stay! After they've been a character race for years, but that in itself is rather the point. Bloodies much like dranei were the prototype new races and for this reason they're were problems that couldn't be antispated. While I'm sure there teams working all this and more as we speak... who wants speculate? I do! I do!
Things like:
-What will they put where those statues of kael are in SM (a naaru one, of those brooms?)
-Just who are those three guys in the palace (we know little more that their names).
-More important how does that motley crew = functioning government?
-What about the 1/2 of SM that was a quest zone will it ever be fixed & what would happen to the quests if it was repaired?
-Did they ever fix that wretched problem? they ended up accepting the light or something end of BC did that fix it?
-What about the weird facisty elements in SM? Peaceful protester being brainwashed right there in the bazaar & no one blinked or those folks getting ruffed up at the gate. It was creepy and never fully explained.
-Where are belfs npcs that don't ride sparkle ponies there has to be some?
edit: WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN IF SM WERE SUDDENLY FIXED? HOW DO THE BELF LEADERSHIP WORK? STOP @!#$ AROUND & SPECULATE OR LEAVE!!!
edit2: I'm sorry I really wasn't that clear was I... anyway. Mostly I was adressing a what-if of a belf zones revamp & the fact that the current command structure looks 'bout as sound as the west side of SM

I'll tackle your bullet points with my ideas....

*They'll leave them up... and every hour will phase in a mini-event where the Bloodelves crash the statues, kinda like they did in Iraq with hussans statue. Leaving a small pile of rubble or headless kael's or something.

*Well, I'm gonna guess that gorrash will come into silvermoon and see no progress has been made, and will kill the "regent" and then he'll appoint another bloodelf leader....maybe?

*The wreched thing.... I would like to think that all the high elves will finally realize that they were addicted to magic as well, and for the prolonged absence (cause from the little thing outside ZA, the Bloodelves have kinda kept the "high elves" out)from the sunwell will turn them. so they'll still exist.

*idk, the only sparkle pony riding BE I know of is Jenny (ie that dude from hillsbrad quests, and then shows up sometimes for FL dailies), the rest are all riding Hawkstriders (which imo they need to loose that model for the Raven lord model in different colors)

* I think it probably be rebuilt.... maybe, but kept more as the starter area than an actual part of the city.... cause if they fix that, there are a lot of useless towers and upword build where they could still put stuff for where the city is currently.

[mistuhbull]

Lore wise: Silvermoon is basically back to normal from pre-Arthas, sans 91% of the population. Lor'themar has proved himself a very capable leader. I want to say this is more or less stated in his story.


Main plot points

Most Likely
Lor'themar finally being crowned king, with no Sunstrider to claim the Throne it really makes sense
Lor'themar reestablish the Convocation of Silvermoon being made up of Liadrin, Halduron, Tae'thalan, Rommath (or replacement, see later), a priest rep, and a warrior guy
Western Silvermoon is restored, Eastern Silvermoon has the kael statues replaced with Dath'remar or Anasterian
In time, the fel eyes will go away, but that is many years down the road (centuries?)

Plausible
Ghostlands is mostly reclaimed and unscourged, basically draw a line across from windrunner Spire. Green above, scourged below.
Either Forsaken are told to GTFO or Tranquillien becomes this wierd mish mash of Forsaken and Sin'dorei architecture
Rommath is revealed as the Twilight Prophet, someone else replaces him as Grand Magister

Want to happen, possible
Lor'themar tells Sylvanas to go fuck herself, badass event at the end of Ghostlands
Quel'dorei rejoin Sin'dorei society. Western Silvermoon becomes Quel'dorei'd, the Elves rename themselvs Bel'dorei (Shortened from Belore'dorei or Children of the Sun)
Bel'dorei society is ruled by Lor'themar, but Convocation includes Auric and Vareesa

Want to happen, won't
Sin'dorei rule the world, the world is made peaceful and every city looks amazing

[kage]

Main plot points

Most Likely
Lor'themar finally being crowned king, with no Sunstrider to claim the Throne it really makes sense
Lor'themar reestablish the Convocation of Silvermoon being made up of Liadrin, Halduron, Tae'thalan, Rommath (or replacement, see later), a priest rep, and a warrior guy
Western Silvermoon is restored, Eastern Silvermoon has the kael statues replaced with Dath'remar or Anasterian

Plausible
Ghostlands is mostly reclaimed and unscourged, basically draw a line across from windrunner Spire. Green above, scourged below.
Either Forsaken are told to GTFO or Tranquillien becomes this wierd mish mash of Forsaken and Sin'dorei architecture
Rommath is revealed as the Twilight Prophet, someone else replaces him as Grand Magister

Want to happen, possible
Lor'themar tells Sylvanas to go fuck herself, badass event at the end of Ghostlands
Quel'dorei rejoin Sin'dorei society. Western Silvermoon becomes Quel'dorei'd, the Elves rename themselvs Bel'dorei (Shortened from Belore'dorei or Children of the Sun)
Bel'dorei society is ruled by Lor'themar, but Convocation includes Auric and Vareesa

Want to happen, won't
Sin'dorei rule the world, the world is made peaceful and every city looks amazing

Anasterian! Why did no one think of that (granted he doesn't have a model or concept art for that matter). I'd like to think the Dark Lady can still be salvaged. I mean if they wanna make her semi-villainish then why not go for undead-elf-moira (the angry dwarf lady)

[Kathranis]

The Kael statues would likely be replaced with statues of Anasterian or even more likely, Dath'Remar. Kael already looks like Dath'Remar, they just have to remove the Verdant Spheres.

I don't see why the blood elves would harm their relationship with Sylvanas or the Forsaken. The Forsaken helped them reclaim the Ghostlands, without their help they wouldn't have been able to do it.

Blood elves are never going to rename themselves again. The word "blood" is a tribute to all their people who died during the Third War.

Most likely that the Convocation of Silvermoon will be reformed and Lor'themar won't become the sole king, I think.


Also, note: Hawkstriders are actually supposed to be cockatrices, but they changed the name for obvious reasons. Dragonhawks and hawkstriders are supposed to basically both part reptile, part bird.

[Splenda]

I would like to see Lor'themar being a more prominent character. Whatever that ends up being.