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  1. #5901
    Just throwing this out there

    bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_%28Generation_I%29

    The list is data-mined from the original games that shows there were 190 pokemon in the original game yet 39 of those data entries were deleted and traces of them that still existed in the original game became missingo.
    All of those 39 removed from the original game appeared as gen 2 pokemon, Ho-oh is listed there as number 52.

    It was also confirmed by one of the developers that 190 were created for the original game, finally I believe one of the developers stated that they often deal with hundreds of different pokemon designs but they are forced to draw the line at one point and some pokemon do not make the cut, though they do often save designs that they liked for later games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucizanito View Post
    Does no one love sweet Meganium? While speaking of Meganium does anyone always try to get a female Chikorita when choosing grass as the Gen II starter? A male Chikorita just seems weird.
    meganium honestly is my least favorite starter. infact expect for cindaquil and his family tree...after there 1st evolution...they just didnt feel as powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sac View Post
    meganium honestly is my least favorite starter. infact expect for cindaquil and his family tree...after there 1st evolution...they just didnt feel as powerful.
    But Cyndaquil is so cute

    But yeah I don't like meganium, only evolved starters I like less are Emboar and Serperior

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    Quote Originally Posted by wariofan1 View Post
    Ho-Oh being solid gold was probably to emphasize its status and because the Pokémon wasn't known to others yet. Pokémon like Girafarig, Ampharos and Ho-Oh were supposed to be in Pokémon Red, but was cut, sketches from the designers goes to prove that. I think it was something like 180 Pokémon that was planned to be in the game, but was cut for whatever reason.
    Oh, most definitely to make it look like something rare and unusual. As the rest of your post confirms, he wasn't designed for the original game. So the odds that he was modeled around being a fleshed out version of the original legendary bird Ash saw on leaving Pallet is pretty likely. Ít also happened to be something that they were able to go back to what must have been many years later with Eusine, once he was fully developed and appropriate back story had been covered.

    For all of the daft comments about me "hating" the series, I've watched up to the Battle Frontier, and played every game that came out up to Black/White... They just crossed the line for me, because I'd always played every generation using a fresh team, and it was the first time even after scouring the new Pokedex that I could not find 6 that I liked - the fact that many were worse looking clones of the original games 150 didn't help. I also found the triple battle system to just be tacky and clunky, and the story to be more annoying than engaging. I don't see any point in buying B/W2, given I still wouldn't be able to make a current gen team of 6. (I always did the story with a visually aesthetic team, and battled friends with hand picked, EV raised monsters)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryve View Post
    Oh, most definitely to make it look like something rare and unusual. As the rest of your post confirms, he wasn't designed for the original game. So the odds that he was modeled around being a fleshed out version of the original legendary bird Ash saw on leaving Pallet is pretty likely. Ít also happened to be something that they were able to go back to what must have been many years later with Eusine, once he was fully developed and appropriate back story had been covered.

    For all of the daft comments about me "hating" the series, I've watched up to the Battle Frontier, and played every game that came out up to Black/White... They just crossed the line for me, because I'd always played every generation using a fresh team, and it was the first time even after scouring the new Pokedex that I could not find 6 that I liked - the fact that many were worse looking clones of the original games 150 didn't help. I also found the triple battle system to just be tacky and clunky, and the story to be more annoying than engaging. I don't see any point in buying B/W2, given I still wouldn't be able to make a current gen team of 6. (I always did the story with a visually aesthetic team, and battled friends with hand picked, EV raised monsters)
    And why exactly do you feel the need to tell us all of this? Why do you need to ruin the game for others, and tell them they can't like it, just because you don't like it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by holz View Post
    Why do you need to ruin the game for others, and tell them they can't like it, just because you don't like it?
    I never said/did anything of the sort. Are you intentionally flame-baiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by holz View Post
    But Cyndaquil is so cute

    But yeah I don't like meganium, only evolved starters I like less are Emboar and Serperior
    that was a typo...i meant i like him lol the rest suck. and besides..he can learn thunderpunch...take that water types!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sac View Post
    that was a typo...i meant i like him lol the rest suck. and besides..he can learn thunderpunch...take that water types!!!
    I like most starters, only gen 5 and some of the ones in previous games (Usually grass starters, lol) are the ones I don't really like.

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    for every gen..

    1st. my very 1st starter was a bulbasaur why? som game book said he was good for the 1st few gyms to get my feet wet. blastoise was next then charizard. charizard was..ok but eventually he was replace by a speed and streght combo of areodactlye and dragonite. (face it that rock/flying combo was really powerful and even rare candied had still a great amount of speed to out speed half the game..and yes he detroyed every charizard i ever faced.

    2nd. Cyndaquil..i never played the other starters he facerolled the game for me. and i beleive meganium didnt have much in terms of stab attacks back then and he didnt get anything til gen 4. the water dude..i dont remember him much but also i tend to not use water types the only water type that has ever been leveled by me has been a milotic.

    3rd. i picked me a torchic. the other 2 were good but i didnt like treeko til gen 4 for some reason. mudkip was ok but i didnt know he was physical not special..so he didnt appeal to me.

    4th. i felt 2 fire/fighting types in a row was lame i hated it. so i didnt even give chimchar a shot, i tried piplup 1st. but he felt really week between 15-36 but when he gained steel it was alot better. turtwig kinda felt faceroll all the way up.but also his ground typing felt more like a weakness then anything else.

    5th. i scoped this out way in advance. i agian wasnt gonna give a fire/fighting type a shot, i got tired of water types by this point and the fact i wopuld have tried basulin but he wasnt catchable til he was useless for my team. i was left with snivy. his speed and abilities early on made him a great choice. now to look forward to gen 6..IF I SEE ANOTHER FIRE/FIGHTING TYPE IM GOING TO JAPAN AND GIVING A PEICE OF MY MIND!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sac View Post
    "Which starters I chose per generation"
    Hmmm.... All the friends I could play against had no clue of how EVs and IVs worked, neither did I. So therefore I didn't really care about strength, as I beat the game easily and my friends didn't have the strongest pokemon either. I picked the pokemon I liked the most lookswise.
    1st gen: Any pokemon were ok, imo.
    2nd gen: I hated Totodile's line, though gave it a try and thought it was quite a strong pokemon (though ugly)
    3rd gen: I liked all three, but less than the 1st gen's starters.
    4th gen: I liked Turtwig's line the best. The rest I did gave a try, but Turtwig was it for me.
    5th gen: Hmm, I only like Oshawot's line. Played it twice and tried Tepig aswell.
    6th gen: So far, I guess water won't be my choice this time.

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    1st gen, all were ok, bzut charmanders line was the best
    2nd Totodile and Cyndaquil are awesome Chikorita is meh
    3rd Liked all, by far the best Grass starter
    4th Chimchar>>>>>>>Piplup>Turtwig
    5th Only reasonable one was Oshawott's line
    6th GIEF FENNEKIN AND CHESPIN!!!!

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    Totodile eats them all for breakfast. Probably literally as well.

    That aside:

    1-Charmander for the nostalgia. This is easily the best rounded generation IMO.
    2-See above for God Emperor Crocodile Pokemon. Cyndaquil in a distant second and Chikorita is blergh.
    3-Torchic is my go-to because I love so many Gen 3 Water types (Wailord, Sharpedo, Walrein, etc.). Mudkip and Treecko aren't bad; probably the 2nd best rounded.
    4-Turtwig is my favorite, Grass/Ground is a great combo save for Ice types. Chimchar is pretty good. Haven't played Piplup enough.
    5-Tepig is numero uno for me, but I haven't played far with Snivy and Oshawott's line gets progressively mediocre.
    6-TBA
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    Couldn't care less about the statistical advantage. I picked the ones that looked the best to me. That being said:

    1. Bulbasaur
    2. Cyndaquil
    3. Treecko
    4. I didn't really like any of these, however I went with Turtwig
    5. Again, wasn't a huge fan of any of them, went with Tepig
    6. Not familiar with their names yet but the Grass one is adorable. I'll be going with him.
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    the hell man the hell..

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    1. Charmander!
    2. Cyndaquil!
    3. Torchic!
    4. monkey one!
    5. I didn't actually like any of the starters. Was tired of another fire/fighting combo. I think I chose the water one.
    6. Will be going back to fire definitely ^_^

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    1. Can't remember if Bulbasaur or Squirtle was my first. Squirtle was my favourite.
    2. Totodile
    3/4. Didn't play
    5. Oshawott

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    1) Squirtle - Always thought he started as the cutest and ended up the most badass with those cannons. The first time i played through i only leveled him, he ended up being level 60~ by the time i realised i could level my whole team and wondered why he kept ignoring me for not having enough badges.

    2) Totodile. I loved Feraligatr. I liked Chikorita but could never get a female one (and Chikorita should never be male.) i liked Typhlosion, but it learns such bad moves that i couldnt stand using it and used different fire types.

    3) I didnt like any of them in particular. Mudkip was adorable, but i hate Marshtomp. Actually, Torchic and Treecko are adorable too, but i hate their evolutions just as much as Marshtomp. Probably my least favourite generation of Pokemon. The only redeeming Pokemon here was Absol. <3

    4) Monferno was overpowered, such good moves, so Chimchar wins here. I have to say though Empoleon has a great typing. I won so many battle frontier matches with him alone - definitely makes up for Piplup. I never liked Turtwig.

    5) Samurott and Emboar were both pretty solid, but Samurott won out because the genius' at Game Freak decided not to implement any fishing rods til endgame, so Oshawott was one of like 3 water types obtainable before surf. Huge dislike for Snivy's evolutionary line.


    I never liked Grass as a type, and have never really liked any of the Grass starters (excluding Bulbasaur's evolutionary line). Water/Fire are usually my go-to starters, depending on availablitiy (Gen 4 defaulted to Fire because Game Freak again decided it was a great idea to have less than 10 fire types available...).

    If the starter types are the way people are expecting them to be this time round, I'll probably go with Froakie (especially if he ends up evolving to Water/Fighting).

    Dark, Fighting, Dragon and Steel are my favourite types. Throw in a Water type for Surf, and round the team off with another random Pokemon that will give me solid coverage. But there will always be at least one of those types in my game teams.
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    1. Charmander, but I liked all of them, just Charmander a little more.

    2. Cindaquil. It goes from a mouse to what looks to be a lion. I liked Chikorita too.

    3. Torchic/Treeko

    4. Turtwig.

    5. Snivy.

    6. Fennekin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sac View Post
    the hell man the hell..
    *Bidoof video*
    Whaha, this is so epic! The other guy must have been like "WTF, I lost against Bidoofs. Stupid lame legendaries." The guy with the legendaries played terrible though. No skill whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taurenburger View Post
    Whaha, this is so epic! The other guy must have been like "WTF, I lost against Bidoofs. Stupid lame legendaries." The guy with the legendaries played terrible though. No skill whatsoever.
    Yeah seriously. Keeps using Swords Dance on his Blaziken even though it's not needed whatsoever...

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