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  1. #17841
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    Unless you can get hyper voice (which you can't till December with pokebank) Mega gardevoirs ability pixilate is shit.

    Togekiss is actually inferior to sylveon if you are just looking for a fairy attacks, though if you are looking for type coverage you would want togekiss but togekiss keeps its weakness from flying and gained added weakness of fairy (poison and steel).

    If you want mega aggron and a fairy coverage go sylveon
    If you want mega aggron and type coverage go togekiss

    If you just want a fairy sweeper go mega gardevoir.
    Well, I just realized after going through my hatchery boxes that majority of my bred sweepers are physical and I needed more specials. Also I want to try out fairy type. I have used Togekiss before as a flinch machine and actually liked it, but now I would have to kinda relearn it with it's new type. Not sure about Sylveon yet (quite limited move-pool).
    So I just tried to somehow get both of these done withing a single breeding cycle.

    Also imagine MeGardevoir Echoed Voicing whole enemy team down. That would be a prima donna singing last lullabies to her enemies. Would actually fit her new dress.
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  2. #17842
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuun View Post
    Well, I just realized after going through my hatchery boxes that majority of my bred sweepers are physical and I needed more specials. Also I want to try out fairy type. I have used Togekiss before as a flinch machine and actually liked it, but now I would have to kinda relearn it with it's new type. Not sure about Sylveon yet (quite limited move-pool).
    So I just tried to somehow get both of these done withing a single breeding cycle.

    Also imagine MeGardevoir Echoed Voicing whole enemy team down. That would be a prima donna singing last lullabies to her enemies. Would actually fit her new dress.
    Unfortunately Togekiss learns no good attacking fairy moves beyond Dazzling Gleam which gains no benefit from serene grace either. If only it got moonblast....

  3. #17843
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuun View Post
    Well, I just realized after going through my hatchery boxes that majority of my bred sweepers are physical and I needed more specials. Also I want to try out fairy type. I have used Togekiss before as a flinch machine and actually liked it, but now I would have to kinda relearn it with it's new type. Not sure about Sylveon yet (quite limited move-pool).
    So I just tried to somehow get both of these done withing a single breeding cycle.

    Also imagine MeGardevoir Echoed Voicing whole enemy team down. That would be a prima donna singing last lullabies to her enemies. Would actually fit her new dress.
    Echo voice is pretty shitting on gardevoir, it doesn't have the bulk or speed to live through enough attacks to get it to the point of one shotting people and more then likely they will switch to a steel or poison and you will have to break the chain. Mega gardevoir + hyper voice is the only reason pixilate will be good.

    If you want a fairy special attacker you want sylveon or florges. I don't believe togekiss gets moonblast.
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  4. #17844
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    Echo voice is pretty shitting on gardevoir, it doesn't have the bulk or speed to live through enough attacks to get it to the point of one shotting people and more then likely they will switch to a steel or poison and you will have to break the chain. Mega gardevoir + hyper voice is the only reason pixilate will be good.

    If you want a fairy special attacker you want sylveon or florges. I don't believe togekiss gets moonblast.
    Yeah I know Echoed Voice is not viable, I was just toying around with that idea.
    What I am seeking is a fairy pokemon that is also useful outside of it's fairy domain. Planning to do some 3v3 battles first so I need coverage.
    Sylveon has quite small move-pool.
    I don't like Florges all that much, I think it should be Grass/Fairy.
    Togekiss doesn't learn moonblast which is a shame, however he is useful even without it, just lacks the fairy "punch".
    Hyper Voice would be awesome but I am not sure who would she inherit it from. Also Hyper-Beam on MeGardevoir would pretty much 1hit Ko anything that isn't a special waller. It's base 135 Sp.Def would allow it to survive recharge against poison/ghost (mostly special). The problem would be steel attacks which are mostly physical and her defense is quite lacking. On the bright side there aren't many steel physical sweepers. Yes, I know Scizor exists but every Pokemon has a counter.
    Also, there is always Moonblast when I don't feel like I have to unleash the oblivion on my enemies.
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  5. #17845
    I don't like Florges all that much, I think it should be Grass/Fairy.
    It shouldn't. It can learn grass moves but doesn't get STAB but thats a good thing. Grass/fairy is one of the worst typings period. Whimsicott is forever fucked

    Togekiss doesn't learn moonblast which is a shame, however he is useful even without it, just lacks the fairy "punch".
    Aromatisse is good if you don't mind the speed and it gains calm mind so you can pretty much stack HP and def and boost itself with calm mind. Put a quick claw on it and watch it rape everything.

    Wigglytuff is good if you can lower one of its stats with charm or something so its sp. att will get a boost clefable is good but it lacks the stats.

    So its Togekiss with better coverage with a horrible typing vs sylveon with horrible movepool better typing vs aromatisse with horrible speed vs florges which has a horrible ability vs gardevoir.

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    If you are mainly doing 3's dazzling gleam hits every foe. Its just... flying/fairy is pretty bad typing.
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  6. #17846
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    It shouldn't. It can learn grass moves but doesn't get STAB but thats a good thing. Grass/fairy is one of the worst typings period. Whimsicott is forever fucked



    Aromatisse is good if you don't mind the speed and it gains calm mind so you can pretty much stack HP and def and boost itself with calm mind. Put a quick claw on it and watch it rape everything.

    Wigglytuff is good if you can lower one of its stats with charm or something so its sp. att will get a boost clefable is good but it lacks the stats.

    So its Togekiss with better coverage with a horrible typing vs sylveon with horrible movepool better typing vs aromatisse with horrible speed vs florges which has a horrible ability vs gardevoir.

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    If you are mainly doing 3's dazzling gleam hits every foe. Its just... flying/fairy is pretty bad typing.
    I didn't mean Florges typing meta-wise but visual/concept wise.
    I am not deeming Wigglytuff and Clefable useful. For me they will always remain cute fluffy filler pokemon (no offense to any of their fans). I have considered Aromatisse and Slurpuff but they didn't seem that good. Slurpuff is kind of a jack of all trades with nice hidden ability. Your beloved queen is mix of a waller and special sweeper which is also slow. My MegAggron probably will serve as my passive aggresive waller and 2 slow tanky pokemons are a no-no for me, unless I will use a Trick Room team, which I probably won't. Luckily Gardevoir does not have to use Mega to be useful addition to my team (sure, I will use her Mega sometimes but that will require a new waller).
    So I think my choice is narrowed to:
    Togekiss (good offense, not bad def stats but has 5 weaknesses)
    Florgess (if I will ever get past my disapproval of it's typing)
    Sylveon (pure fairy, bad movepool, least probable of these to get a spot)
    Gardevoir (so far is in my favour, for some reason psychic doesn't have poison resistance which is a little letdown)

    The whole thing is about feeling a niche. It's not like it's gonna be my core member from now and forever.

    Oh and I meant 1v1 matches but with 3 Pokemon. If it is a possible setting in PvP matches (haven't touched them yet).
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  7. #17847
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    Soooo... to my original question. What is my safari?
    Casual, with a capital''C''.
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  8. #17848
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuun View Post
    I didn't mean Florges typing meta-wise but visual/concept wise.
    I am not deeming Wigglytuff and Clefable useful. For me they will always remain cute fluffy filler pokemon (no offense to any of their fans). I have considered Aromatisse and Slurpuff but they didn't seem that good. Slurpuff is kind of a jack of all trades with nice hidden ability. Your beloved queen is mix of a waller and special sweeper which is also slow. My MegAggron probably will serve as my passive aggresive waller and 2 slow tanky pokemons are a no-no for me, unless I will use a Trick Room team, which I probably won't. Luckily Gardevoir does not have to use Mega to be useful addition to my team (sure, I will use her Mega sometimes but that will require a new waller).
    So I think my choice is narrowed to:
    Togekiss (good offense, not bad def stats but has 5 weaknesses)
    Florgess (if I will ever get past my disapproval of it's typing)
    Sylveon (pure fairy, bad movepool, least probable of these to get a spot)
    Gardevoir (so far is in my favour, for some reason psychic doesn't have poison resistance which is a little letdown)

    The whole thing is about feeling a niche. It's not like it's gonna be my core member from now and forever.

    Oh and I meant 1v1 matches but with 3 Pokemon. If it is a possible setting in PvP matches (haven't touched them yet).
    Oh then regular gardevoir would be better, less weaknesses, better ability's, better coverage.
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  9. #17849
    Anyone available to help me evolve my haunter? I'll give you some pokerus for your assistance! If you haven't been posting here, don't bother because I'm not going to trust you with my haunter.

    I got someone, thanks!
    Last edited by Algy; 2013-11-16 at 04:14 AM.

  10. #17850
    is chatot any good as a pokemon?
    "I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
    "so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon

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  11. #17851
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    Is it possible to nickname a default named Pokemon you get from a trade?

  12. #17852
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immitis View Post
    is chatot any good as a pokemon?
    Frankly, no.

  13. #17853
    Quote Originally Posted by Algathor View Post
    Anyone available to help me evolve my haunter? I'll give you some pokerus for your assistance! If you haven't been posting here, don't bother because I'm not going to trust you with my haunter.

    I got someone, thanks!
    If you need any other to trade-evolve in the future poke me, it's true pain with those evolve mechanics :<

  14. #17854
    Quote Originally Posted by -Ethos- View Post
    Frankly, no.
    well... a shinies still a shiny i guess
    "I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
    "so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon

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  15. #17855
    I miss the gen2 days where breeding for shinies was 1/64 chance. ^^
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  16. #17856
    Quote Originally Posted by Nibúeanor View Post
    If you need any other to trade-evolve in the future poke me, it's true pain with those evolve mechanics :<
    I'll keep that in mind. I'll need one when the pokebank opens to evolve my trollgar. If anyone doesn't know what that means, look at a certain skill gengar learns from mismagius.

    I wish the new games could run on a normal DS, cause I can't afford a 2nd 3ds just for trading purposes. >.>

  17. #17857
    My 2nd 3ds is a godsent. :x
    Not just for trading purposes, but the battery also kind of sucks in terms of longevity.
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  18. #17858
    Looking for someone to trade evolve my Haunter into Gengar with. FC is in sig, PM me yours/quote me with FC
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  19. #17859
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    Just pray that Klefki wont be in SMB.

  20. #17860
    That's not Klefki silly. That is MegaKlefki. Whole different story.
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