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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanîdaho View Post
    Ah, thank you for that. All makes sense now.

    Figured I'd leave this here for it's awesomeness, one of the best things in DBZ.


    this fight is the only 1 that rivals the intensity, dramaticness, and dynamicness of the freiza fight.

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    Since we were discussing 'What if' earlier... What if Gohan hadn't dropped the earring Goku threw?

    Gohku?
    Gokan?
    Gokun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    Since we were discussing 'What if' earlier... What if Gohan hadn't dropped the earring Goku threw?

    Gohku?
    Gokan?
    Gokun?
    glad that never happnedm tat would be very weird for chichi and videl

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    For me this was one of the most bad ass moments in DBZ + Goku transforming into SSJ1 ofc!


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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    glad that never happnedm tat would be very weird for chichi and videl
    More so for Chichi. Sure, getting romantic with your husband/boyfriend would be weird enough when he is half another guy, but when the other guy is your son?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    More so for Chichi. Sure, getting romantic with your husband/boyfriend would be weird enough when he is half another guy, but when the other guy is your son?
    Score for Goku, though...

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    That's why he's the hero.

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    this does not even include the fight pre super saiyan

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    and finally 1 last video before i leave

    i want to kill you
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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Would have been funny if one of those random ki waves that came out hit and killed the Supreme Kai anyway.

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    I always liked this fan vid. This whole speach before the song and how the song integrated into it.

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    On a WoW related note, there so needs to be a fighter-type boss in the next expansion. He needs to have a dodge-mechanic for the tanks, and when executed correctly, he screams, "WHY DO MY PUNCHES ALWAYS MISS YOU?!?!".

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    ---------- Post added 2012-03-11 at 04:52 PM ----------

    heading out for a while

    here is a vid



    in freiza's defense, goku led him on

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    i have always been super bad with the order its suposed to be in can some one give me a good timeline of the entire DB story?

    starting from kid
    to grownup with radditz namek cell buu ect ect and the movies aswel and if they are supossed to be or happen during a specific time to not get lost in the timeline
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUN3R View Post
    i have always been super bad with the order its suposed to be in can some one give me a good timeline of the entire DB story?

    starting from kid
    to grownup with radditz namek cell buu ect ect and the movies aswel and if they are supossed to be or happen during a specific time to not get lost in the timeline
    thank you <3
    The movies don't specifically fit into the timeline of the series, as some of them cause contradictions. Some of them could be considered canon, as they cause no contradictions. For example, Cooler's Revenge could take place before the Androids appear. Return of Cooler shows both Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta though, but not Super Saiyan Gohan. This means the movie would have to take place before the training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, but after Vegeta was shown to be a Super Saiyan, because none of the characters knew Vegeta was a Super Saiyan. There is no period of time that's unaccounted for between those two events though, thus a contradiction.

    Bojack Unbound almost feels like it tries to make itself canon, by fitting in perfectly. It mentions that it takes place a year after Cell, and it shows future Trunks come back explaining that he destroyed the Androids, and the Cell of his time, just like in the series.

    My own person interpretation of the timeline is this. Bardock: The Father of Goku, original Dragonball, DBZ movie 1: The Dead Zone, Saiyan-Garlic jr saga, History of Trunks, (this isn't technically part of the timeline for obvious reasons, but this is the best place for it imo) Trunks saga, DBZ Movie 5: Cooler's Revenge, Android-Cell sagas, DBZ Movie 9: Bojack Unbound, Great Saiyaman-Buu sagas up to the death of Kid Buu, DBZ Movie 13: Wrath of the Dragon, Heya! Son Goku and his friend return!, post Kid Buu time skip, DBGT up to the death of Omega Shenron, A Hero's Legacy, last episode of DBGT.

    As you can see, I only consider movies 1, 5, 9, and 13, to be part of the series timeline. Sure, I take the other movies as canon of a sort, (as in it's theoretically possible that they could happen because they don't break any established laws of DBZ) but they're clearly alternate universe/timeline because they cause contradictions.

    And I swear, if anyone brings up the first Broly movie as part of the main timeline due to the short gap in time before the Cell games, I will flip a bitch and die of a heart attack. (Joking of course, but it is seriously a ridiculous idea, and is easily disproven by the fact that Goku and Gohan aren't FPSS.)
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    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    they even said broly is non cannon

    also would dr raichi fit in the time line

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    I'm not sure if the first move "Dead Zone" fits in since there were a few moments in there that also happen at the beginning of the DBZ series.

    Dead Zone is the only film that takes place after the end of Dragon Ball and before the beginning of Dragon Ball Z. The events of this movie can be placed into the series timeline between episodes "The End, The Beginning" of the Piccolo Jr. Saga and "The New Threat" of the Vegeta Saga.

    There are a few discrepancies, however. For example, Krillin was introduced to Gohan in the movie, yet he did not know who he was in the beginning of Dragon Ball Z. Additionally, in "Unlikely Alliance" ("The World's Strongest Team" in the original dub), Goku comments on his discovery that Piccolo trains with weighted clothes; however, he makes the same comments in Dead Zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    they even said broly is non cannon

    also would dr raichi fit in the time line
    You mean the Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans? It has the same problem as Broly. Both Goku and Gohan are in their base forms but capable of going Super Saiyan. There was no point in time when both of them were normal Super Saiyans outside of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    could have happened after


    transforms into a super worgen 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    I'm not sure if the first move "Dead Zone" fits in since there were a few moments in there that also happen at the beginning of the DBZ series.
    Goku and Gohan both got hit on the head. Seriously though, that's a very good point that completely slipped my mind. Nice catch. Dead Zone is hard to call imo. If those are the only inconsistencies, it's so damn close that it's almost painful. And without Dead Zone the events of the Garlic jr saga have some plot holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    could have happened after


    transforms into a super worgen 5

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    No, it couldn't have happened after. During the time before the Cell games, Goku and Gohan are both constantly transformed. In Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans both Goku and Gohan are capable of transforming, yet not in their transformed states at various times. That breaks continuity.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    sooooooooo freiza is real guy

    and so is his race......




    photoshop makes freiza real!
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