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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    kai needs more garlic JR
    Are you trying to get banned again? Mentioning Garlic Jr in a positive way should be infractable.

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    I liked Dead Zone. Garlic Jr's anime arc, on the other hand...
    Men!

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    garlic is ok filler and the other world martial arts tourny

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    garlic is ok filler and the other world martial arts tourny

    PIKON!
    Pikon and Otherworld tourney are miles, light years, dimensions ahead of Garlic J. Saga.

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    So I just thought of something cool after reading DBZM. What if during the android saga when Yamcha was getting all jelly of Vegeta being strong and awesome he went out on a training expidition. While training Dr. Gero finds and watches him and then after a while offers to help Yamcha get stronger. Yamcha (being Yamcha) accepts without thinking and before ya know it it, BAM, he's an android. Of course Dr. Gero programed him to be a killer specifically meant to hunt down and kill all of Goku's friends. However, as he is almost about to kill Krillin, Krillin starts spouting off stuff that makes him stop and attempt to get ahold of himself. He spares Krillin and goes off to think. Later on he returns to start killing everyone again and ends up fighting Vegeta. Yamcha out matches Vegeta when he is out of super saiyen and can fight him as an equal when he is. When Bulma shows up with the tech needed to restrain Yamcha until she can fix his programing, Vegeta bitch smacks the poor guy down and Bulma chains him up. After cell is defeated they either use the dragon balls to wish him out of being a deranged killer or Bulma fixes him. Not only would this have been an interesting plot twist, but it could have made a non-saiyen relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Pikon and Otherworld tourney are miles, light years, dimensions ahead of Garlic J. Saga.

    i liked it because it proved they dont always need goku! well aleast the after freiza 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakeer View Post
    So I just thought of something cool after reading DBZM. What if during the android saga when Yamcha was getting all jelly of Vegeta being strong and awesome he went out on a training expidition. While training Dr. Gero finds and watches him and then after a while offers to help Yamcha get stronger. Yamcha (being Yamcha) accepts without thinking and before ya know it it, BAM, he's an android. Of course Dr. Gero programed him to be a killer specifically meant to hunt down and kill all of Goku's friends. However, as he is almost about to kill Krillin, Krillin starts spouting off stuff that makes him stop and attempt to get ahold of himself. He spares Krillin and goes off to think. Later on he returns to start killing everyone again and ends up fighting Vegeta. Yamcha out matches Vegeta when he is out of super saiyen and can fight him as an equal when he is. When Bulma shows up with the tech needed to restrain Yamcha until she can fix his programing, Vegeta bitch smacks the poor guy down and Bulma chains him up. After cell is defeated they either use the dragon balls to wish him out of being a deranged killer or Bulma fixes him. Not only would this have been an interesting plot twist, but it could have made a non-saiyen relevant.

    in that universe it seems like they hate saiyans which is why krillin is so cold towards goku in that universe (old krillin and normal universe goku)

    i think they became androids to defeat piccolo since he is not in that universe, or maybe when vegeta and nappa attacked which is why they dont like saiyans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Pikon and Otherworld tourney are miles, light years, dimensions ahead of Garlic J. Saga.
    Definitely. My only issue with the Otherworld tourney is that Goku didn't even need SS until the final fight. He is competing against fighters who were already powerful heroes when they died, and then had continued training for hundreds/thousands of years with near infinite energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post


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    i liked it because it proved they dont always need goku! well aleast the after freiza 1

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    in that universe it seems like they hate saiyans which is why krillin is so cold towards goku in that universe (old krillin and normal universe goku)

    i think they became androids to defeat piccolo since he is not in that universe, or maybe when vegeta and nappa attacked which is why they dont like saiyans.
    I under stand that weird things happened in that universe, but the what if im talking about is for the main saga, a different way it could of played out with the result of Yamcha being relevant and a non-saiyen that could fight someone without dieing

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    ooooh ok i thought u were talking about somthing in multiverse, that woulda been pretty cool

    also tien shoulda hit enlightenment and gained some form of a human version of super saiyan, krillin should also be capable of that state due to his young monk training

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Awesome. Just awesome.

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    tien in mystic form (like gohan)

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    Enlightenment makes alot of sense for tein. not for krillin though. Maybe Supreme Kai or Super Kami Guru could have awoken hidden powers. Or maybe he could have been crippled so that he wouldnt be obligated to try fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    Definitely. My only issue with the Otherworld tourney is that Goku didn't even need SS until the final fight. He is competing against fighters who were already powerful heroes when they died, and then had continued training for hundreds/thousands of years with near infinite energy.
    True, that part made no sense to me either. The only real strong ones other than Goku were Pikon and the other North Quadrant guy whose name I forget. you'd think after thousands of years of doing nothing but training (and they're dead so they never get tired), they'd be stronger. Speaking of, how strong do you think Yamcha and Krillin got while there? I thought I remember them training longer and even having it out with Pikon, but I guess I imagined those scenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakeer View Post
    Enlightenment makes alot of sense for tein. not for krillin though. Maybe Supreme Kai or Super Kami Guru could have awoken hidden powers. Or maybe he could have been crippled so that he wouldnt be obligated to try fighting.
    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense for Tien. And it would make a human fighter strong enough to compete

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    Krillin only because of being a monk

    android yamcha ftw

    android chatzu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    android chatzu?
    He evolves to his second form.

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    tien gave him a moon stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Krillin only because of being a monk

    android yamcha ftw

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    "monk" should be used loosely there. He insists on training with Roshi all the time, but Roshi never does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rakeer View Post
    tien gave him a moon stone.
    Still doesn't help against Nappa's Rock Smash.

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    I agree Tien had so much unused potential. Could of been the one human fighter they had keep up. Enlightenment like Genn and I said pages ago would of been amazing. The other guys just don't have enough devotion to fighting to become that good. Tien was all about it though, all the guy did was train and go all out. Hence him being able keep 2nd form Cell at bay when Yamcha or Krillin couldn't even handle Gero in the slightest. He honestly reminds me of a human version of Goku... wish they would of done something better with his character in the buu saga next to ignoring all the human fighters pretty much.
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    I heard a rumor that the main reason why they didnt really use tien later on was because his voice actor died

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    I heard a rumor that the main reason why they didnt really use tien later on was because his voice actor died
    I know that's the reason he wasn't in the dragon ball special that introduced Tarble, but I think the actor was still around during Dragon Ball Z

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    http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Hirotaka_Suzuoki

    The voice of Tien also played Rage Shenron in GT, so he was alive and still working throughout all of the Dragon Ball animes. For whatever reason they stopped using Tien in the story, it wasn't because of the voice actor.

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