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    Is it ever explained why Broly's SS form has blue hair? maybe that means his SS is different too. Also in the new special doesnt Bardock have a tail and should therefore have gone legendary SS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ðemonhuntr View Post
    Is it ever explained why Broly's SS form has blue hair? maybe that means his SS is different too. Also in the new movie doesnt Bardock have a tail and should therefore have gone legendary SS?
    It's only blue in the first movie, its assumed because of the power restriction device to dull his power, and prevent the legendary form.

    In the second coming he has a regular super saiyan form with golden hair because he destroyed the power restriction device in the first movie.

    As for Bardock being a legendary super saiyan, Canon wise, doesn't make clear sense as with most dbz movies.

    The original super saiyan was depicted in the anime as being a golden great ape (although in a silhouette). Which obviously was not Bardock b/c he only goes regular super saiyan. Also The original super saiyan destroyed the original planet vegeta. Bardock is sent into the past on the second planet vegeta, at the time hes sent into its known as planet plant. Now unless he went to the original planet vegeta and went great ape and destroyed it. He's not the original LSSJ. Granted Vegeta's recall of the legend's appearance could be misinformed as he did not exist 1000 years ago, to visually witness it.

    Now if you take the movie version of Broly being a current day LSSJ. Bardock was for sure not a LSSJ.

    However it could explain how Frieza's family/ blood line was aware or feared the saiyans and the legend of a super saiyan. But not the same legend that vegeta and other saiyans pass down.

    Having a tail and going super saiyan doesn't grant the LSSJ form.
    As Goku has one in GT and can go super saiyan but cant go Broly style.
    However, can go Golden Ape, which is like vegeta's telling of the story.
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    IMO Broly is just a freak of nature hehe

    but the Bardock special does take away credit of Laurcus theory on tail = LSS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ðemonhuntr View Post
    IMO Broly is just a freak of nature hehe

    but the Bardock special does take away credit of Laurcus theory on tail = LSS
    That's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Im not so sure, I think even first movie broly could have been stronger than super perfect cell


    it took a lot to defeat broly. I think ss2 is only double ss1

    it took 4 super saiyans and a super namek... and a meteor to defeat broly. It took 1 super saiyan 2, a blast from vegeta, and some attacks from the much weaker, tien, krillin, and yamcha to kill super perfect cell

    movie 2 broly is no doubt stronger
    Well, only Goku was actually a Super Saiyan when Broly was defeated in the first movie. Everyone else had the shit kicked out of them so badly that by the time they gave their energy they were in base form.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    they may have been in base form but it was all of them for a great while at full power fighting broly and broly just had to laugh at them


    it took the right punch into the right place with all of their energy combined with the help of a meteor to defeat broly and not even kill him

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    Genn somehow i dont believe Goku really believes in family values hehe.

    Anyways back to Broly, One of the reasons his PL is so hard to gauge is because of "when" its supposed to happen if it happens during the week b4 the cell tourny then why arent goku and gohan in SS form lets say they bumped their head and forgot to do it for a day SS Goku did put up a good show vs Perfect Cell so id argue Broly atleast = Perfect Cell cuz SS Goku didnt have shiznit on him, if he = Super Perfect Cell is a big question though what was the power jump from Perfect to Super Perfect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ðemonhuntr View Post
    Genn somehow i dont believe Goku really believes in family values hehe.

    Anyways back to Broly, One of the reasons his PL is so hard to gauge is because of "when" its supposed to happen if it happens during the week b4 the cell tourny then why arent goku and gohan in SS form lets say they bumped their head and forgot to do it for a day SS Goku did put up a good show vs Perfect Cell so id argue Broly atleast = Perfect Cell cuz SS Goku didnt have shiznit on him, if he = Super Perfect Cell is a big question though what was the power jump from Perfect to Super Perfect?
    Well, what gets me is Broly is defeated by Goku, still as SSJ1. He absorbs the power of his friends, and we don't really know how much energy that is.

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    It takes a ssj2 to defeat cell.
    A ssj to defeat Broly.

    Cell killed Goku, & Trunks

    Broly killed his dad.

    Okay broly surived the destruction of a planet from an asteroid, so did cell minus the asteroid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iadamson View Post
    It takes a ssj2 to defeat cell.
    A ssj to defeat Broly.

    Cell killed Goku, & Trunks

    Broly killed his dad.

    Okay broly surived the destruction of a planet from an asteroid, so did cell minus the asteroid.
    Well, Cell actually died, he just came back because a few cells survived, and thus he regenerated. Which is also why he came back as Super-Perfect Cell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow-cleave View Post
    Well, Cell actually died, he just came back because a few cells survived, and thus he regenerated. Which is also why he came back as Super-Perfect Cell.
    If he died he would have went to hell, like when he actually died.

    He survived the blast, saiyan DNA, stronger every time hes hurt real bad, the cells remembered his perfect form also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    When does Piccolo say that? I do not recall that ever being mentioned. Also, Cooler considers blowing up the sun, and Broly did blow up many stars when he destroyed the south quadrant.
    Sorry haven't been on in a couple days. I could of swore he said it in one of the movies suggesting to use the sun to destroy something but I went back and checked and never happened. I guess it was an assumption I always had, sorry. If their blasts do indeed burn that hot on Earth wouldn't it fry the atmosphere though and cook everyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanîdaho View Post
    Sorry haven't been on in a couple days. I could of swore he said it in one of the movies suggesting to use the sun to destroy something but I went back and checked and never happened. I guess it was an assumption I always had, sorry. If their blasts do indeed burn that hot on Earth wouldn't it fry the atmosphere though and cook everyone?
    one does not simply compare dbz physics and logic to the real world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanîdaho View Post
    Sorry haven't been on in a couple days. I could of swore he said it in one of the movies suggesting to use the sun to destroy something but I went back and checked and never happened. I guess it was an assumption I always had, sorry. If their blasts do indeed burn that hot on Earth wouldn't it fry the atmosphere though and cook everyone?
    Don't sweat it.

    I never saw it as simple heat. More of heat combined with raw kinetic force. More on the kinetic force. But that's just my headcanon. All I know for sure is that I would pay to have Akira Toriyama read our fan thread, as well as the Goku vs Superman thread, and then make a brief comment on it. That would make my day... year........ life.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanîdaho View Post
    Sorry haven't been on in a couple days. I could of swore he said it in one of the movies suggesting to use the sun to destroy something but I went back and checked and never happened. I guess it was an assumption I always had, sorry. If their blasts do indeed burn that hot on Earth wouldn't it fry the atmosphere though and cook everyone?
    Just a wild guess, but perhaps you confused actual canon with DBM? Because Piccolo mentions what you're talking about in the second Broly special, when Piccolo suggests that they attempt to push him with combined attacks because the sun "burns much more than our attacks do". Sometimes one can mix actual canon up with fan material, I know I've done it in the past with something Broly-related too...

    Just a guess from my part on why you'd be thinking about that though, considering I found what you said so similar to what he says there.
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    I really have high hopes for the next dbz movie. I really want the new bad guy to be a bit more interesting. Jenembya was cool, but....... he was not that interesting same with the big bug.

    broly was mostly interesting atleast to me because he matched a lot of greek and viking myths.

    Berserkers: nice normally, but very brutal in the battle field

    broly was one of those, he also had a lot of parallels to Achilles. A great warrior, but not a great soldier. Also had that one weak spot

    Freiza was interesting because he was the entire reason for why goku was goku, why vegeta was vegeta, and was a magnificent bastard.

    cell was interesting because he was the z fighters

    buu had an amazing back story
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    Is there a english version of DB AF YOUNG JIJII VOL. 4 around somewhere? i can only find th japanese version on the Facebook site.
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    I heard about that Dragonball Online game earlier this year, I'm ecstatic that there's a version that doesn't need a KSSN. 18mins left on the download, I'm thrilled!

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