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    People often ask me why do I enjoy dragonball Z some much, I tell them cuz its awesome, then they ask how, so I got to thinking, what other show in your child hood had..

    Dragons
    Fighting
    Aliens
    Giant Apes
    Androids
    Time Travel
    Wizards
    Demons
    Space Travel
    the list goes on

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    Quote Originally Posted by iadamson View Post
    People often ask me why do I enjoy dragonball Z some much, I tell them cuz its awesome, then they ask how, so I got to thinking, what other show in your child hood had..

    Dragons
    Fighting
    Aliens
    Giant Apes
    Androids
    Time Travel
    Wizards
    Demons
    Space Travel
    the list goes on
    Reboot! Another one of my favorites. The whole game cube concept was amazing, it really opened up the show. One show they are fantasy D&d type characters, the next they are doing a space one, then a western. It was great.
    The generalist looks outward; he looks for living principles, knowing full well that such principles change, that they develop. It is to the characteristics of change itself that the mentat-generalist must look. There can be no permanent catalogue of such change, no handbook or manual. You must look at it with as few preconceptions as possible, asking yourself, "Now what is this thing doing?" -Children of Dune

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    That second one about trunks is hilarious. Made me laugh.

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    I want to get an android phone, and name it android 17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanîdaho View Post
    Reboot! Another one of my favorites. The whole game cube concept was amazing, it really opened up the show. One show they are fantasy D&d type characters, the next they are doing a space one, then a western. It was great.
    I think only YTV had reboot, does that mean our neighbours south of the boarder didn't get to witness bob mend and defend?
    That show was legit good tho, Matrix when hes all bad ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iadamson View Post
    That show was legit good tho, Matrix when hes all bad ass.
    Enzo Matrix is like reverse-Trunks. He starts as an annoying kid you just want to smack, and then turns into the ultimate badass.

    I just wish the series hadn't ended with a damn cliffhanger.

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    oh trunks

    starts out as a bad ass, becomes that kid you want to smack.... becomes an adult you want to smack
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    dbz movie come soon please!!!
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    I still wonder why they always stare in awe.

    Like really? Why? -.-

    And I find Krillin being impaled by Frieza a pretty gruesome scene for kids. D:

    But it's ok, makes kids mire resilient against gore.
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    So I just spent the past week nostalgiaing it up after forgetting about dbz for 10 years. Watched every single movie. All of the tfs abridged parodies as well as parts of cell and buu saga. I never got to GT and only watched tid bits here and there in Japanese back in the day and find it tough to get into that part of dragonball.

    I really wish the show would have done more justice to Vegeta other than "OMG HERE COMES VEGETA HE'S SO BADASS! Oh wait he just got his ass handed to him in 5 seconds AGAIN".

    Quick question: Where does Mystic Gohan stand in the grand scheme of things? He's clearly stronger than SS3 Gotenks. But is he stronger than SS3 Goku? Or how about in comparison to Vegeto? Also does Mystic Gohan remain at his powerful state never having to power up meaning that he has greater endurance than a Super Saiyan?

    More questions: Is Broly stronger than SS2 Gohan?

    Why is Goku "the chosen one"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolkingler1 View Post
    I still wonder why they always stare in awe.

    Like really? Why? -.-

    And I find Krillin being impaled by Frieza a pretty gruesome scene for kids. D:

    But it's ok, makes kids mire resilient against gore.
    Characters stare in awe because they can literally feel the power of the combatants. A 6th sense like that would be pretty hard for any of us to comprehend. I think Trunks sort of describes it when he explains his training in the Room of Space and Time. He thought Vegeta was standing in this giant inferno, and it burned him just to look at it. He thought it was something wrong with the room, but it was just the intensity of Vegeta's energy.

    The best analogy I could think of is using the sense of touch. Imagine if you had a boulder dropped onto your head, but you didn't die, you simply felt the impact from it. Then imagine later you had a planet dropped on you. The sensation would be indescribable, but either way, you'd probably stare in awe too.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Is it true there's a new DBZ movie in 2013?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryl View Post
    Is it true there's a new DBZ movie in 2013?
    is it true?

    I'll watch it.

    Even if it is bad, I have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    So I just spent the past week nostalgiaing it up after forgetting about dbz for 10 years. Watched every single movie. All of the tfs abridged parodies as well as parts of cell and buu saga. I never got to GT and only watched tid bits here and there in Japanese back in the day and find it tough to get into that part of dragonball.

    I really wish the show would have done more justice to Vegeta other than "OMG HERE COMES VEGETA HE'S SO BADASS! Oh wait he just got his ass handed to him in 5 seconds AGAIN".

    Quick question: Where does Mystic Gohan stand in the grand scheme of things? He's clearly stronger than SS3 Gotenks. But is he stronger than SS3 Goku? Or how about in comparison to Vegeto? Also does Mystic Gohan remain at his powerful state never having to power up meaning that he has greater endurance than a Super Saiyan?

    More questions: Is Broly stronger than SS2 Gohan?

    Why is Goku "the chosen one"?
    1. Mystic Gohan is the strongest unfused character in original DBZ, except, likely, with the possibility of Goku after the 5 year time skip, due to Goku continuing to train. He is definitely much weaker than Vegito. In GT he's so weak that he's irrelevant.

    2. Mystic is a transformation similar to Super Saiyan, not an all the time thing. For examples see Gohan vs Frieza in Fusion Reborn, and Gohan vs Hirudegarn's bottom half in Wrath of the Dragon.

    3. Broly is stronger than SS2 Gohan during his second movie, but not during the first.

    4. There's nothing about Goku that we know of that makes him special. From what we can tell he's simply a product of his environment and his upbringing. One could speculate that if there is a Super Saiyan gene, Goku got it from Bardock, though that only raises the question of why Bardock is so special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galil ACE View Post
    is it true?

    I'll watch it.

    Even if it is bad, I have to.
    It is true. DBZ Movie #14 comes out March 30 2013. I will take place during or after the Buu saga. It is being written by Akira Toriyama and one of his co-writers that worked on the Cell saga with him.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Indeed Goku is not a chosen one, He simply worked hardest at it and never did it for a selfish reason which is why he surpassed Vegeta, who did do it for a selfish reason time and time again

    Gohan was considered special, for another reason. Because he is a half saiyan and half saiyans seem to have an easier time going super saiyan, Because most saiyans lack emotions beyond a superficial level (Goku shows a lot of emotion, but not deep ones.) Goku did get angry and upset, as shown with the death of Android 8 which triggered a huge power boost. Same goes for Vegeta where anger seems to be the only emotion he really has. It is when they trigger their polar opposite emotion that they became super saiyans.

    Goku lost all control to anger = Become a super saiyan
    Vegeta giving up and becoming sad = becoming a super saiyan
    Bardock actually caring about others = becoming a super saiyan

    Notice how this is their opposite emotion. Goku as a goof, Vegeta as an angry person, and Bardock as a pretty cold person.


    For the half saiyans, Gohan, Trunks, and Goten. They had human emotions they were not stuck in their primary emotion (goku being goofy and vegeta being serious) Which is why Gohan was able to achieve super saiyan 2.

    Gohan simply had to learn to let go of his control of his emotions.

    Also notice how the half saiyans have a larger range of emotions than their full counter parts.

    Trunks(future) did not fall into this category because he did not train with other super saiyans early on and the concept likly never arose for his time line at least. Trunks likely became a super saiyan because he wanted to make his father proud of him, A trait very common among younger children.

    Goten likely became a super saiyan out of being lonely, He did not grow up with his father and his brother eventually went to school leaving him alone, another common childhood trait of some form of abandonment although he still had Chi Chi, most children in 1 parent homes do show that they feel that missing parent should be there.

    Pan did not become a super saiyan because of time constraints, although her art work as a super saiyan is used in the online game.


    Goku is very unique with not being a chose hero with nothing actually special about them. Think of all other heros especially in Anime, Naruto had a tails beast, Ichigo is part death god, etc

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    Also none of the half saiyans really had to become their polar opposites other than gohan, even then its not really a polar opposite if its his anger issues that arose constantly.
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    Hey Genn Canadian's got both versions, certain episodes played rock the dragons and others didn't (not sure why)


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    What i noticed

    It seems bobbity and dabura show up in the future time line years before gohan died, remember they showed up wen trunks was 8, he is around 15 maybe when he goes back in time

    I guess they just showed up, realized there was no energy for buu, and left.


    if they took buu's ball with them is another story
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    Not sure how serious this is as I've seen so many of these fake it's not funny. But here ya go, nonetheless.
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