Last edited by Duncanîdaho; 2012-12-10 at 03:59 AM.
The generalist looks outward; he looks for living principles, knowing full well that such principles change, that they develop. It is to the characteristics of change itself that the mentat-generalist must look. There can be no permanent catalogue of such change, no handbook or manual. You must look at it with as few preconceptions as possible, asking yourself, "Now what is this thing doing?" -Children of Dune
Me gusta gokusta
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everyone can guess mine
-Introduction of Future Trunks
-Best villain introduction
The others also had some great moments, but also had some times that were kind of boring.
Also, not included in the picture, but I'd put the 22nd WMAT/Demon Piccolo/23rd WMAT high on the list as well.
While I think the Cell Saga is probably the most entertaining overall, I happen to think Frieza is actually the best villain. Frieza had the most build up, and the highest emotional significance to the characters. His ambition was the most practical, which made his evil actions the most understandable. Not only was he incredibly powerful and seemingly undefeatable, his flaws also made him interesting. His fear of Saiyans was deeply ingrained which made his superiority complex highly unstable. He wanted to believe he was the strongest, but deep down he feared he might not be. It's his doubt that made him such an interesting character.
As villains go, I have Frieza pretty high up, but as Sagas go, it's kinda dull until Goku gets there. Krillin, Gohan and Bulma do virtually nothing on Namek. Their main purpose is to just give us a good guy's point of view of what's happening there. Otherwise we are just watching Vegeta vs Frieza's men, Villain vs Villain.
It's true what you say about the Frieza Saga in general. I haven't seen the original unedited saga since I was a kid, but Kai makes things a lot better imo. The Namek/Frieza sagas certainly still have some slow moments though. Like you, I still enjoy the Cell Saga most even if I think he was a less interesting character. There's some really great action in the Cell saga, and it feels like we're not staring at the same green water and trees all day like we did during Frieza's Saga. Oh, and the planet isn't blowing up for 1/3 of each episode.
I definitely find the whole Frieza/Namek saga the most entertaining. As others have said it has the most buildup and the best villain. And what I personally liked was Vegeta being on nobodies side, he just manipulated everyone. And the strongest good guy changed a lot, most characters had their moments unlike later sagas where anyone who wasn't a saiyan was useless. And of course the first and best transformation to super saiyan was in this saga.
I think characters each having a moment at the top is a plot device used constantly in DBZ and it's something I really happen to enjoy. This trend stays pretty consistent throughout the show, but I feel the Buu saga starts to make it a little messy.
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Last edited by Letmesleep; 2012-12-10 at 06:26 PM.
pepper your angus
My angus is well peppered. I'm glad they decided to give that guy some bulk; he was looking pretty frail in other pictures.
i guess its a more powered up form
https://twitter.com/search?q=sean%20schemmel&src=typd on the voice actor's twitter he even says they didn't do it
well now im sad
You know. They never show vegeta attaining his next form (until SS4) he always did it between sagas training. Well, maybe Goku and Gohan are the only ones who it showed perhaps..
Maybe thats why when everyones a super saiyan its less epic because it doesn't show what any of them had to go through to achieve it really.. (or they didnt go through anything like goten and trunks)
should have just had the human fighters obtain enlightenment to keep them relevant
or do it like they have been in bringer of death. Tien using kai o ken as a power up to stay on par with the rest