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    I feel that "Yam-cha Head-Yam-Cha" can only be accurate if he was missing his body. Maybe im just in a dark head space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    vegeta never surpassed goku
    Actually, he did several times. On Namek, he was stronger than Goku once he was healed from the beating he took from Recoome, becoming strong enough to kill Jeice and match Frieza form one. It's believe he may have been stronger than Goku at the beginning of the Android Saga, but we don't know for sure. He was also stronger than Goku after coming out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

    Side note: Goku has never actually defeated Vegeta.

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    I think Dont you worry child, by swedish house mafia is a perfect song for Gohan.

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    I could see how the first half fits Gohan, but the second half not so much.


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    So, apparently an official statement was made in V-Jump that Bills is the strongest being in the history of the DBZ universe.

    If it was possible for me to become more excited for this movie, it just happened.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    So, apparently an official statement was made in V-Jump that Bills is the strongest being in the history of the DBZ universe.

    If it was possible for me to become more excited for this movie, it just happened.
    Does that count GT? Because if not, then that's not any kind of revealing news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Does that count GT? Because if not, then that's not any kind of revealing news.
    It's revealing in the sense that it would mean Bill's is THE strongest character in the DBZ universe, hands down. As in, not the strongest known being, but the but the flat out strongest being total. There is currently no stronger being existing in the Dragon Ball Z universe. No other character up to that point, whether we know if its existence or not, surpasses him. He's the strongest character that the Z warriors could possibly fight by that period of time.

    We knew Buu wrecked universe and all, but there was never any confirmation that he was the strongest being in the universe. There never was for Freiza, either. There was never a confirmed "strongest being in the universe". And now we have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    So, apparently an official statement was made in V-Jump that Bills is the strongest being in the history of the DBZ universe.

    If it was possible for me to become more excited for this movie, it just happened.
    Does that include Vegito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    Does that include Vegito?
    I think it would, yes. As Vegito came into being during the Buu saga and whoever made that statement would have known this. Vegito is technically a single being from fusion so I would think he would be included in the statement. Which makes is very interesting if in fact true because Vegeta himself has stated he never wants to do permanent fusion again during the Buu saga. So they would not be able to reach the power level that Vegito had easily, and Gogeta would not be strong enough. Making me wonder how they are actually going to be able to beat this guy.

    Otherwise, if Vegito(fusion) was not included in that statement. Then he's at least stronger then SSJ3 Goku after then 10 year time skip but much less threatening then above. Meaning Gogeta fusion will probably be the way to go to beat him.

    O yeah, 3 pages late, But I'm going on an adventure with Master Roshi. I can just see all the sexual harassment lawsuits already.
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    strongest being in the universe? FRIEZA FRIEZA FRIEZA FRIEZZAAAAA

    he said so him self


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    That would make a great ringtone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    That would make a great ringtone.
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    I have the impression that this bils guy isn't really a bad guy. Rather looks like he is coming around to test his strength instead of wanting to conquer/destroy something.
    Maybe he will be fighting against the Z-Fighters, in the end Goku is able to push him into his final form and he goes away saying "wow nobody ever saw this form before, you are so great blablabla".

    If he is a bad guy then there could be a few possibilities. Somehow i don't think it will be Gogeta who beats him in the end as we already had this one in a recent movie. Also its too simple to again just have Goku and Vegeta doing a fusion. I generally dislike fusions in animes as they are too overpowered and don't need a real background, its just "oh hey lets fuse and then we beat this guy without any effort". The only fusion i liked was Vegito.

    Maybe another fusion? Goku+Gohan? Maybe a new transformation? Some months ago there was the rumour that Toriyama wanted a new SSJ4 transformation, i think this rumour was fake but it may be an option. As its a movie it doesnt have to be canon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    strongest being in the universe? FRIEZA FRIEZA FRIEZA FRIEZZAAAAA

    he said so him self

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    8/10 for video + song. I hadn't confirmed that that was Maximum the Hormone until the very end, but the whole time I was thinking "this sounds like Maximum the Hormone". I get into the screaming + singing style bands.

    In other news, I hadn't ever seen the unedited scene where Frieza skewers Krillin with his horn. Holy crap, pretty bloody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letmesleep View Post
    In other news, I hadn't ever seen the unedited scene where Frieza skewers Krillin with his horn. Holy crap, pretty bloody.
    My reaction when I first saw it as a kid was pretty much a combination of Gohan's face and voice, and TFS Vegeta's quote ("Well, he's dead").


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    My reaction when I first saw it as a kid was pretty much a combination of Gohan's face and voice, and TFS Vegeta's quote ("Well, he's dead").
    Wow, Frieza even plays with his dying body; that's brutal. I think the Frieza saga has to be the most violent part of the whole series. Frieza getting sliced by his own Destructo Disc was pretty gnarly too. We don't see anything that bloody throughout the Cell saga right? Certainly not in the Buu saga.

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