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    I'm thinking Frieza, based off of Piccolo's ability to beat 20, despite being 120x weaker than Frieza just four years before and not having a transformation. I think it's reasonably possible that Vegeta could have beaten 19 without transforming, assuming he spent more time fighting smart instead of being careless just to show off his new form (such as letting 19 grab him and taking a huge chunk of his energy).

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    your god de-throned

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    Old news, and full of flaws. Also, "god". Lol.

    I still don't get what's with people going into threads just to stir up crap.
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    wasnt..tryin to stir crap am a fan of Dbz just thought it would fit

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    Forgot about Piccolo beating up 20, yeah that's a good reference point then Zoma. I'll withdraw my earlier comment.

    Having four years to train though Piccolo is probably ridiculously stronger compared to how he was on Namek. In the Saiyan saga when there power rate increase isn't even as crazy he almost gets 9x increase within a year. 120x as powerful within 4 years though does seems like a bit of a stretch for a non-saiyan without any transformations.

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    wasnt..tryin to stir crap am a fan of Dbz just thought it would fit
    It's cool, it does. It was a pretty big discussion in this thread when it first came out if you want to check out pages back. Some people who aren't fans enjoy trash talking DBZ in a fan thread sometimes here is all so people get a little defensive. Trash talk Goku all you want haha, Vegeta sure does. I've known plenty of people who hate Goku but like the show for other reasons.
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    biggest flaw

    speed based on gokus speed on snake way.... goku is now millions of times stronger then when he went on snake way.

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    Gotta love Supermans ultimate attack being the vibrator-fist. Google vibrator-fist. I dare you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choptimus View Post
    Gotta love Supermans ultimate attack being the vibrator-fist. Google vibrator-fist. I dare you.
    I can guess, and I'm betting Superman isn't the first thing to show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    I can guess, and I'm betting Superman isn't the first thing to show up.
    Well they do call him faster than a speeding bullet, I'm guessing he was one of the first... If ya know what I mean.

    Yeah the vibrator fist is scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanîdaho View Post
    Forgot about Piccolo beating up 20, yeah that's a good reference point then Zoma. I'll withdraw my earlier comment.

    Having four years to train though Piccolo is probably ridiculously stronger compared to how he was on Namek. In the Saiyan saga when there power rate increase isn't even as crazy he almost gets 9x increase within a year. 120x as powerful within 4 years though does seems like a bit of a stretch for a non-saiyan without any transformations.

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    It's cool, it does. It was a pretty big discussion in this thread when it first came out if you want to check out pages back. Some people who aren't fans enjoy trash talking DBZ in a fan thread sometimes here is all so people get a little defensive. Trash talk Goku all you want haha, Vegeta sure does. I've known plenty of people who hate Goku but like the show for other reasons.
    i dont really hate goku just hate that hes a moron. well..hated him in gt completely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newaccountforthiscontest View Post
    wasnt..tryin to stir crap am a fan of Dbz just thought it would fit
    I stand corrected then, and I make Duncanîdaho's words my own.
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    What I wonder: why was Goku constantly asleep while he had the heart virus.

    He should at least be awake sometimes.

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    your god de-throned
    http://www.screwattack.com/news/goku...battle-screwed

    That's my blog where I point out the mistakes they made with Goku's stats. I didn't even get into the mistakes they made about Superman's stats. And notice in the comment section that Ben Singer himself gets on to disagree with me, and then when I point out his flawed logic and ask him to respond again he leaves without so much as another word.

    Fyi, they made the following mistakes with Superman's stats.

    Superman's normal physical output is not equal to the output of the Infinite Mass Punch. He cannot do that with every hit.

    The Infinite Mass Punch is not a point for Superman's durability because DC does not follow Newtonian physics for things that are light speed or above. When Superman uses the IMP his body does not take the same damage because DC has something called the Speed Force that is designed to circumvent all the problems that light speed and FTL movement causes. The Speed Force absorbs the backlash from the hit, not Superman. Superman also never survived a supernova. Brainiac stated that it's a supernova, but DC's writers obviously don't even know what that is, because what's shown on panel is just a star exploding, not going supernova. I know this because supernovas last for a week.

    Superman's durability is around planetary level for a KO, though it is widely inconsistent and he has been shown to be able to take a little more than that, as well as a lot less. To come up with Superman's stats they used all versions of Superman and simply disregarded his hundreds of low showings, like being knocked out by an electrified sewer grate in season 1 of Justice League TAS. Sure, some would argue that Goku has some low showings, but Superman has hundreds of low showings.

    Nevermind the fact that each one of these versions of Superman are actually different Supermen of the universe. There is only 1 Goku, there are dozens of Supermen, and you can't arbitrarily mix and match from them, because they're different people with different experiences. They also just used Superman Prime One Million as an excuse to disallow end of GT Goku, which is bogus because the end of GT actually happened, but the DC One Million storyline was done as an extended what if scenario, and DC does not in any way endorse that as canon, and the writers understood that going into it.
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    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Might be a repost but just in case it isn't. DBZ posted this on there facebook page today. SSJ3 Gogeta ftw.
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    The generalist looks outward; he looks for living principles, knowing full well that such principles change, that they develop. It is to the characteristics of change itself that the mentat-generalist must look. There can be no permanent catalogue of such change, no handbook or manual. You must look at it with as few preconceptions as possible, asking yourself, "Now what is this thing doing?" -Children of Dune

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    That's awesome. If SS3 Gogeta gets stomped by Bills, and SSG Goku wins, that puts me well on the way to calculating how powerful SSG is.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Those eyes muscles... ugh
    Men!

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    Pretty sure ssj3 gogeta beats up bills but because of "omg so much power consumption because of ssj3" the fusion breaks before finishing him up. Ends then bills doesn't let them do the dance again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liebchen View Post
    Pretty sure ssj3 gogeta beats up bills but because of "omg so much power consumption because of ssj3" the fusion breaks before finishing him up. Ends then bills doesn't let them do the dance again.
    Sounds plausible to me. And then comes Ssjg to save the day.
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    when is that movie coming to cinemas in europe ??

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    when is that movie coming to cinemas in europe ??
    No idea when/if there'll be a national release for it. I'm willing to bet it'll be a while before there's even fan subs. Personally, I plan to watch it raw asap. Fuck waiting. I'm perfectly okay with pirating something like this, because I know if they ever make it available in my country it's an instant buy for me, no matter how many times I've seen it.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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