I've noticed that the amount gained from the zenkai is quite inconsistent. Vegeta's first few healing boosts on Namek were just a few thousand each time, then after the Recoome fight he is suddenly able to take on Frieza's first form.
And Recoome takes a dive. Goku floored him with one punch? Just how strong is he?
Oh well. He's no match for the universe's highest rated doubles tennis team. Burter and Jeice step up to the plate.
Jeice: "After you."
Burter: "No I fucking insist. Go!"
Here's something I've always wondered about the history of trunks special. I haven't seen it in a while, but does it explain explicitly that the Namakian Dragon balls no longer work? I know with Piccolo being dead the earth ones would turn to stone, but i cant recall if they even mention the Namakian ones.
Did they have access to the Namekian Dragon Balls? For all we know, the Capsule Corp spaceship has destroyed by the Androids, and they don't know where New Namek is anyway. King Kai knows where New Namek is, but King Kai didn't know about the Androids and Cell until Goku told him, and he had already been dead for a while. Also, there is a 1 year deadline on rezzing, so they can't bring anyone back anyway now.
1. Where did you actually hear the term Zenkai? I've seen it used before by other people, but I have never once seen it in any official DBZ material. It's not in the manga, the anime, the Super Exciting Guide, the Daizenshuu, or any interviews. Where the hell does this term come from? According to the wiki, the term is mentioned once in the Japanese end theme song of DBZ. That's kind of a ridiculous reference for a term that's so widely used. Other than that, the wiki doesn't have much information.
2. I have also heard the opinion before that they lose this ability after going Super Saiyan, and I've never found a source for this, or even a shred of circumstantial evidence.
If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.
1. i dunno that is how i heard it was described let me find it (i think the abridged referenced to it a bit)
2. because it seems no saiyan has it after becoming super.
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i may be wrong on 2
I first heard Zenkai on the dbz wiki. I just went with it.
I think they just stopped bringing it up in DBZ after the Frieza Saga, causing people to speculate they can't use it after Super. I've heard some people say a Super Saiyan can't use Kaioken.
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19's power-absorption might give him an edge, though I think that would only work if he grabbed one of Frieza's biological parts, which is only about a quarter of his body.
---------- Post added 2012-05-08 at 11:35 PM ----------
Hmm, who is more 'natural'? Mecha-Frieza or 17/18?