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    Just gunna chime in, not particularly add anything, but just say that the Goku vs. Superman thread has inspired me to rewatch all of the old episodes again. I only saw about 2 sagas of Dragonball and only Cell Saga in Dragonball Z growing up as a kid, but the nostalgia is still amazing. I'm about 130 episodes in now, and it is an amazing waste of time; after I finish Z, I'll probably go back and watch Dragonball, and maybe GT if I go through both of those too quickly.

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    Vegeta FTW my fav DBZ character ever and SSJ4 Gogeta was the baddest ever to bad they didnt show more of him he was so badass and funny

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    power levels really died with freiza

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    also cells power level? i always attributed to being around lets say 4 freizas, no clue why

    also ill leave u for the nite with this


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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post


    power levels really died with freiza

    ---------- Post added 2012-03-06 at 05:49 AM ----------

    also cells power level? i always attributed to being around lets say 4 freizas, no clue why

    also ill leave u for the nite with this

    Seriously you're killing me Genn. Love the pics, keep em coming.
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    Something occurred to me yesterday. King Piccolo and Piccolo Jr. are essentially the same person. Piccolo Jr. has his father's memories, his link to Kami, etc. So why did King Piccolo go through the trouble of getting the Dragon Balls to restore his youth when he could have just hatched his junior egg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    Something occurred to me yesterday. King Piccolo and Piccolo Jr. are essentially the same person. Piccolo Jr. has his father's memories, his link to Kami, etc. So why did King Piccolo go through the trouble of getting the Dragon Balls to restore his youth when he could have just hatched his junior egg?
    because king piccolo would then have to share power with his son

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    also while piccolo jr has the same memories, he really*isn't*the same person

    piccolo and kami never became the true ultimate namek, it would have to be king piccolo and kami and piccolo jr for that.*

    dont forget (as much as i hate gt) the black star balls were very powerful, and the ultimate namek who made them was king piccolo/kami

    and piccolo jr/kami is not that powerful even with naaaiiiiilll.*

    since the dragon balls are only as powerful as maker.*

    kamis balls (lawl) 1 wish*
    gurus balls (laaawwwllll) had 3
    dendes balls (pedo bear) had 2*

    all of which scatter only around the planet

    mean while

    (what ever his name was) kami/king piccolo's balls went through out the entire galaxy and its wish granting power was only broken by the power of a super saiyan 4. even then, only temporarily*

    ---------- Post added 2012-03-07 at 02:55 AM ----------

    also beings as poweful as super saiyan 4 seemed to actually be existent besides goku, old kai knew exactly what goku was when he transformed.*

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    I like Dragon Quest better :3

    I've still yet to see the entirety of Dragonball Z. All I ever saw was up to... Cell, I think? And then the beginning of Buu to the end of GT. I did see all of Dragon Ball though, and it was awesome. Manga's even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    kamis balls (lawl) 1 wish*
    gurus balls (laaawwwllll) had 3
    dendes balls (pedo bear) had 2*
    Wasn't this explained when Dende recharged the Dragon Balls on Earth? He said that he could make them give three wishes, but then the wishes wouldn't be as powerful. Keep in mind Guru's balls can only revive one person at a time, whereas Kami's balls can revive a lot more.

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    I said this in another thread but I'm gonna ask again here...*

    After Goku defeated Freiza I remember them wishing EVERYONE Freiza killed back to life. Wouldn't this mean that all the Saiyans that Frieza killed when he destroyed Planet Vegeta are alive?

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    I believe there is a time limit on reviving people. I'll check.

    ---------- Post added 2012-03-06 at 08:43 PM ----------

    Shenron can wish back more than one person per wish, provided that they (1) died less than a year ago, (2) died under a common circumstance (e.g. killed by a certain villain), and (3) have not already been wished back before. This is used to revive the victims of many villains, such as King Piccolo and his men, Frieza and his men, and Cell.

    http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Shenron
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    Future Trunks, Piccolo, and Kid Gohan were always my favorite. I always thought the best fight was Cell vs. Gohan. Then they had to go and make him a pansy after that. Then he meets a kick ass girl in Videl, and later on they make her a pansy too. Poor Gohan's family

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    Yeah, one thing I didnt understand in GT was whenever Gohan fought he would just go super saiyan, but in the buu saga he got the strongest warrior form that was better but didnt look different. I do not understand why he didnt use that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lymph View Post
    Yeah, one thing I didnt understand in GT was whenever Gohan fought he would just go super saiyan, but in the buu saga he got the strongest warrior form that was better but didnt look different. I do not understand why he didnt use that..
    I always thought Mystic wasn't really a new form. I thought it was like when he and Krillin saw Guru, and Guru "released their potential". So he was naturally at Mystic, and going super saiyan just bumped him up like it would normally.

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    all of gohans power was in mystic form so he couldnt go super saiyan anymore he was already all his power in 1 form

    so even his super saiyan 3 form was prob in his mystic state since he was stronger then goku at the end of the buu saga

    gt had a lot of flaws.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    all of gohans power was in mystic form so he couldnt go super saiyan anymore he was already all his power in 1 form

    so even his super saiyan 3 form was prob in his mystic state since he was stronger then goku at the end of the buu saga

    gt had a lot of flaws.*
    Correct. And it's largely because GT wasn't made according to the manga. Everything else, Dragon Ball through DBZ was based on the manga, GT doesn't exist in it if I'm not mistaken. Sorry if this was already covered.. didn't read the thread... tired and heading to bed.
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    Are you sure Gohan was stronger than Goku @ the end of the Buu saga? It was my assumption that after the Cell saga that Gohan never reached that power (or higher) again. I don't think Mystic Gohan was that great at all tbh...

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    brolly super sayian witha hint of green

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    all of gohans power was in mystic form so he couldnt go super saiyan anymore he was already all his power in 1 form

    so even his super saiyan 3 form was prob in his mystic state since he was stronger then goku at the end of the buu saga

    gt had a lot of flaws.*
    While you're right about GT being f'd up, I'm not sure about Gohan being stronger at the end of Buu:
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanto View Post
    Are you sure Gohan was stronger than Goku @ the end of the Buu saga? It was my assumption that after the Cell saga that Gohan never reached that power (or higher) again. I don't think Mystic Gohan was that great at all tbh...
    And keep in mind, Gohan never hit SSJ 3. Goku did. And as I recall (correct me if I'm wrong), SSJ3 Goku actually held his own against Kid Buu, whereas Gohan went to shit after Buu split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanto View Post
    Are you sure Gohan was stronger than Goku @ the end of the Buu saga? It was my assumption that after the Cell saga that Gohan never reached that power (or higher) again. I don't think Mystic Gohan was that great at all tbh...
    End of the Buu saga? No. Pre Buu saga time skip, most definitely. Gohan was almost strong enough to fight evenly with Super Buu. Goku can't claim that. After the 10 year time skip though, Goku was likely far stronger.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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