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    I learned something cool today. I can now semi-accurately figure Kibito Kai's power level.

    As many of you know, Supreme Kai claimed to be 1000 times stronger than Frieza. Giving him a power level of 120 billion. The fusion earrings multiply the power of the two users together. The new thing I learned, is that in Kibito's bio in Daizenshuu 7 it says that he could put up a good fight against Gohan if Gohan didn't turn into a Super Saiyan. We can all agree I'm sure, base form Gohan is greater than or equal to Supreme Kai. Therefore, Kibito's power level is at least 120 billion.

    So, Kibito Kai's power level is the product of Supreme Kai's power, (120 billion) and Kibito's power level (at least 120 billion) which is at least 14 sextillion 400 quintillion. And Old Kai said that he was so weak compared to Ultimate Gohan that he would just get in the way against Super Buu. This heavily supports what I've said for years that power levels continue to grow at the same batshit crazy rate throughout the entire series, just like they do in the Saiyan-Frieza sagas.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    supreme kai was afraid of dabura who was equal to cell

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    supreme kai was afraid of dabura who was equal to cell
    Well, I'm not sure there's enough evidence to say Dabura is exactly equal to Cell. I do agree that Cell would crunk on Supreme Kai. What's that even mean? I don't know, but what I do know is Supreme Kai's getting fucked in that fight.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    I learned something cool today. I can now semi-accurately figure Kibito Kai's power level.

    As many of you know, Supreme Kai claimed to be 1000 times stronger than Frieza. Giving him a power level of 120 billion. The fusion earrings multiply the power of the two users together. The new thing I learned, is that in Kibito's bio in Daizenshuu 7 it says that he could put up a good fight against Gohan if Gohan didn't turn into a Super Saiyan. We can all agree I'm sure, base form Gohan is greater than or equal to Supreme Kai. Therefore, Kibito's power level is at least 120 billion.

    So, Kibito Kai's power level is the product of Supreme Kai's power, (120 billion) and Kibito's power level (at least 120 billion) which is at least 14 sextillion 400 quintillion. And Old Kai said that he was so weak compared to Ultimate Gohan that he would just get in the way against Super Buu. This heavily supports what I've said for years that power levels continue to grow at the same batshit crazy rate throughout the entire series, just like they do in the Saiyan-Frieza sagas.
    Well, that makes Kibito Kai look like shit. Wasn't Gohan weaker than in the Cell Saga because of not training?

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    For people who don't know how much a sextillion is, the number Laurcus gave us looks like this.

    14,400,000,000,000,000,000,000

    Now, Goku is stronger than this in GT, so when he goes into SS4...

    5,760,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    And that's only if Goku was as strong as Kibito Kai, he's actually stronger.

    Now, assuming SS4 Vegeta is approximately the same...

    SS4 Gogeta is 11,520,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    SS4 Vegeto is 331,776,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    ...yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow-cleave View Post
    Well, that makes Kibito Kai look like shit. Wasn't Gohan weaker than in the Cell Saga because of not training?
    It's hard to say exactly. Though Ultimate Gohan was ridiculously strong. He was much stronger than SS3 Gotenks.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    For people who don't know how much a sextillion is, the number Laurcus gave us looks like this.

    14,400,000,000,000,000,000,000

    Now, Goku is stronger than this in GT, so when he goes into SS4...

    5,760,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    And that's only if Goku was as strong as Kibito Kai, he's actually stronger.

    Now, assuming SS4 Vegeta is approximately the same...

    SS4 Gogeta is 11,520,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    SS4 Vegeto is 331,776,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    ...yeah
    For Vegito, wouldn't that only be if Goku and Vegeta fused as SSJ4s? That's significantly decrease his lifespan as a result as well, if memory serves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    For people who don't know how much a sextillion is, the number Laurcus gave us looks like this.

    14,400,000,000,000,000,000,000

    Now, Goku is stronger than this in GT, so when he goes into SS4...

    5,760,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    And that's only if Goku was as strong as Kibito Kai, he's actually stronger.

    Now, assuming SS4 Vegeta is approximately the same...

    SS4 Gogeta is 11,520,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    SS4 Vegeto is 331,776,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    ...yeah
    Are you saying you know the multiplier for SS4? I know SS1=x50, SS2=x100, and SS3=x400, but SS4 is entirely unknown. I've always guessed that it's at least x800, based on the fact that no previous form has been weaker than twice the power of the previous form, but that's speculation.

    Edit: Ah, I see, you used SS3.
    Last edited by Laurcus; 2012-11-26 at 05:49 AM.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    look at whats wrong with 16 and cell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow-cleave View Post
    For Vegito, wouldn't that only be if Goku and Vegeta fused as SSJ4s? That's significantly decrease his lifespan as a result as well, if memory serves.
    The average lifespan of most characters is pretty short. That's what Dragon Balls are for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    Are you saying you know the multiplier for SS4? I know SS1=x50, SS2=x100, and SS3=x400, but SS4 is entirely unknown. I've always guessed that it's at least x800, based on the fact that no previous form has been weaker than twice the power of the previous form, but that's speculation.
    Wasn't you who said the ss4 multiplier is 400?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    The average lifespan of most characters is pretty short. That's what Dragon Balls are for.

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    Wasn't you who said the ss4 multiplier is 400?
    Nope, SS4 is entirely unknown. I would give my left testicle to know its multiplier.
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    Nope, SS4 is entirely unknown. I would give my left testicle to know its multiplier.

    christ man that is devotion

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    Nevermind, looked back at the quote, it was Greymane who said it.

    ...so you're saying it is much stronger than the number I posted?

    Well, now power levels are just meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    Nevermind, looked back at the quote, it was Greymane who said it.

    ...so you're saying it is much stronger than the number I posted?

    Well, now power levels are just meaningless.
    I think they got a little out of hand soon after the Frieza Saga. That's just my opinion though.

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    A picture of goku hugging raditz should be thrown into that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    Nevermind, looked back at the quote, it was Greymane who said it.

    ...so you're saying it is much stronger than the number I posted?

    Well, now power levels are just meaningless.
    And by meaningless, you mean awesome, right? ^_^
    If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    And by meaningless, you mean awesome, right? ^_^
    I can think of a lot of things that are capable of both.

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    what was my quote... im being thrown under a bus wtf!

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