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If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 Octosexagintillion times over. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT.
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those are my assumptions on the power multipliers
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BTW when Vegeta goes SSJ2 against Kid Buu (even though in the anime they made it just SSJ), did he keep all his Majin power? Or was he a SSJ2 before?
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He definitely had already obtained SS2, but some very strange reason he never uses it against Kid Buu. He mostly just gets tossed around like a rag doll through that whole fight. This is just my recollection after recently watching it,though. I don't remember the start of the fight very well, but for at least the last half I know he's only SS1. The only reason I remember is because it made no sense not to go up a notch. If you remember him being SS2 when he first enters the fray on the Kai planet, maybe we can fit our two hazy recollections together and form a whole.
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After watching that scene again now, Vegeta no longer has the M on his forehead when he comes back dead. Maybe he lost Babidi's upgrades as this point, and is actually weaker then when he died? I also can't really tell if he goes SSJ2 or not, its so hard to tell. No lightning though, and the aura does not look to thick, I'd honestly guess he doesn't go SSJ2 against Kid Buu. Compared to when he's fighting Goku earlier he has way less aura around him and no lightning. His hair is even that almost white color that the SSJ1 get when they stay in form but don't pump out an aura and are controlling their power.
He knows he has no chance, maybe rather then going all out and wasting energy for no reason like he did against cell. He's simply turning himself into the most durable punching bag possible. If he went SSJ2 he'd be out of steam so fast against Kid Buu. Wouldn't last the full minute maybe?
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Yeah he definitely doesn't have the 'M' on him after he dies but the show doesn't explain whether he loses the majin power or not. I'd assume he would since the person who was granting the magic was dead, but we can't really know for sure. I'm with you in the assumption that he'd be weaker without the magic. As you mentioned, and to my knowledge, SSJ2 is characterized by lightning surrounding the character, which he doesn't have when fighting Kid Buu.
In terms of his motivation for staying soft, it's very possible. Even if he was going to lose it seems uncharacteristic of Vegeta to not throw everything he has at an opponent, but again, we can only speculate.
In terms of the origin of the discussion (when did Vegeta go SS2), wasn't it right after he got out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, or more accurately, while he was in it? If that's the case, he definitely turned SS2 before the Buu saga.
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