Ok how do i prove that kid buu is the weakest buu?
I have been in a few Efights about his strenght, i Know he should be weaker than the others (Kid buu didnt have goten/trunks/gohan/fat buu/the gods he ate/piccolo/anyone else) so he should be weaker that his other forms right?
"Humility defeats pride, Master Yang has preached. Pride defeats man"
kid buu is stronger than skinny buu and fat buu and i think around the same level as basic super buu
Cuz Kid Buu is pure evil and he absorbed gods of good, doesnt mix
Yeah, kid buu is weaker than Super Buu but stronger than Fat because the god pacified him. Well maybe instead of stronger you could say he is more wild, unpredictable, or faster etc. However they no longer had Mystic Goahn or Gotenks or Vegito to fight him.
Its actually kinda funny to think about. Of all the characters in the buu saga, Kid Buu were actually quite weak XD But simply due to the fact that all the stronger good guys died earlier there werent anyone stronger than him
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Babysitter 16. :-)
On the topic of that Goku vs Superman death match, someone asked the author of Bringer of Death (the fanfic Genn and I mentioned a few pages back), and here's his thoughts on it. It's a bit lengthy, but I'm sure some people will be interested:
Q: On the topic of quantifying power levels, I'd be interested to know what you think about ScrewAttack's Death Battle between Goku and Superman.
A: I'd be happy to address this. I'll start by saying I wasn't pleased with the representation of Goku they used. They made some assumptions and inferred some things that ended swaying things far in Superman's favor. First off: strength. I won't argue that Superman has immensely higher physical lifting strength than Goku does, that's completely accurate. Superman emits a telekinetic field around whatever object he lifts, allowing it to stay in one piece—he was pretty much designed specifically for heavy lifting. Where the discrepancy comes is the assumption that physical lifting strength IS punching strength. That's not at all accurate; martial arts require explosive strength, not gross lifting ability.
The Z fighters use their Ki to enhance the force of each blow, both in speed and power, filling their punches with huge quantities of energy as they swing them. I'm not talking about energy attacks, I'm talking about normal punches and kicks. It's all about how the energy is released. Goku's punches are far, far, far more powerful than Superman's. For current Superman, I'd estimate that Super Saiyan Goku's punching strength is more than enough to outmatch him. For the others (Pre-Crisis, Silver Age, Superboy Prime, etc.) it would take a quite a bit more than just basic Super Saiyan.
Second: speed. Calculating Superman's speed, they again made some poor assumptions that gave him way too much credit. I'm not saying that they got his top speed wrong, I'm saying that there is a huge difference between top speed and battle speed. Superman's flight ability is FAR superior to Goku's, as we all know. He expends no energy whatsoever, and can fly at much faster speeds for long distances. But what he can't do is simply start off at that speed, or anywhere near his top speed for that matter. He has to build up to it. That's where Goku has a huge advantage. His battle speed, the agility he has at any given moment to dodge, is leagues above Superman's. By clearing his mind, Goku can teleport over short distances quickly enough to evade anyone who isn't as fast as him...and that's not even talking about Instant Transmission. In DBZ this is huge, as shown when Ultra Trunks tried to beat Perfect Cell. Cell was untouchable simply because of his superior speed and agility. So, in a battle up close, Goku would have a clear speed advantage. Now, if they raced somewhere it wouldn't be a contest. And if Supes decided to go out into space and build up his speed, then lap the earth and hit Goku with each pass, our Saiyan hero might be in trouble. But not in an up close battle.
The last error I'll mention is this: fighting skill. I don't care what kind of training they claim that Superman has had, he has never fought a battle like this. Just watching his animated fights or reading them in the comics, you see a clumsy brawler who is entirely focused on power punches. Seriously, if he had any kind of real fighting skill opponents like Doomsday or Darksied would be absolute pansies that couldn't touch him. Plus, if he could move at his top speed during battle he could just dodge all their blows, since his speed FAR surpasses theirs. But no! He doesn't...he gets owned like a little bitch every time! Imagine if Goku fought those guys. He would get bored in the first minute. His fighting skill should be considered unequivocally superior, and that goes for about anyone in the DC universe, even precogs. There just isn't a way to keep up with him. I recall Superman even being punched by Batman and being thrown to the ground—really? Yeah, a normal human. Remember what happened with Super Vegeta kicked Perfect Cell with everything he had? I do: NOTHING!
The problem with Superman comes when you actually have to kill him, though. Writers won't let him die for real, which is a huge cop-out. His actual regeneration isn't any superior to Buu or Cell, he just has this extreme natural defensive construction. It seems like no amount of beating is too much for him, and that his body will always repair itself. I see this as the only real obstacle for Goku to overcome. He would need to finish Superman in the same way as Cell or Buu, by destroying every single atom. The trick to that is just a big enough Kamehameha. Good news is, with Goku's favorite move, the Instant Kamehameha, this is more than possible. He would just need to power up and make his one shot count. Otherwise, the fight would drag on and he would lose energy while Supes would just keep healing from the sun. But that is at regular Super Saiyan. I don't imagine Goku needing more than that, as I personally believe Cell could pwn Superman into the next dimension as well, and don't get me started on Buu (even without absorption). Against Superboy Prime or someone else, Goku would need every bit of SSJ3 (since I hate GT I don't count their version of SSJ4). And I don't have Goku beating Prime, simply because he can't finish the job even if he could match him in speed and strength for short periods.
David's thoughts: As a physicist, I tend to treat numbers in comics with a good deal of suspicion. DC authors are fond of throwing around massive numbers with lots of 0s...but they have no clue what those number actually represent in the real world. So Superman can push with 200 quintillion tons of force? Great. Under what conditions? Does that represent the compressive resistence of his skeleton, or the fast twitch muscle fiber pressure, or the thrust provided by his means of flight? It's like pseudoscience: unless we see the original math used to generate a number, it doesn't really have much meaning.
Which brings us to another point: math. Everyone running these calculations seems to think all values are linear...but they aren't. Speed and acceleration and strength and energy and power level are all very different things; they don't relate to each other in neat, proportional eighth-grade pre-algebra equations.
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yeah super worgen
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need some super worgen art
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there is only 1 person who can easily defeat goku and super man
"There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you." -Mazer Rackham - Ender's Game Orson Scott Card
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