yeah but since cell it was pretty much:
"EVERYONE GO SUPER SAIYAN" who didn't was as useful as a trashcan
SSJ for Goten and Trunks is ok imo... they have pretty much perfect conditions... Saiyan/Human Hybrids are said to generally have more potential: Look where Gohan is when he is a Teenager (SSJ2 = a few billion PL) and then look where Goku and Vegeta were as Teenager (Goku at PL 300 or something like that, Vegeta maybe a few thousand). Gohan simply didn't keep the path of a Warrior and we don't know about Goten/Trunks as GT isnt canon and DBZ ends before they are Adults.
Moreover they can train with some of the best Fighters in the universe... Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo. AND as motiviation they have this rivalry between them (although they are friends).
Of course it would have been cooler without kids... every SSJ would have his story:
Goku while fighting a seemingly undefeatable villian who starts to kill his friends in front of him.
Vegeta near death and full of anger that he is not "the" legendary SSJ.
Future Trunks because his best Friend and nearly all of Mankind got killed by the Androids.
Future Gohan because Piccolo and Krillin got killed by the Androids.
Toriyama showed is from the beginning that Gohan had the potential to be more powerful than anyone (given his mood swings), and it was only a matter of time, especially once SSJ was revealed. I think the way they gave it to Gohan was acceptable, but (present) Trunks and Goten was kind of bullshit. Trunks shouldn't have gotten it until he saw Buu beating the crap out of Vegeta, Goten should have gotten it until something equally emotionally disturbing happened (losing Goku/Gohan/Chi Chi to Super Buu).
It would have kept the whole theme they had for it with Goku's traing for Gohan ("The Super Saiyan transformation is a response to a need, not a desire."), and could have had the potential to keep it from becoming what we think of it now (pretty much summed up as Vegeta's "The Super Saiyan... Reduced to a child's mere plaything?! Preposterous!").
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Also, I'm wondering what people's opinions on Battle of the Gods is (only managed to get around to watching it the other day) ...
Myself? I enjoyed it quite a bit - a fun nostalgic romp that kept true to the original series' characters & style imo. It's obvious to me that Toriyama has retained his heart & still has a lot of love for the story.
I'm also curious as to what the movie's conclusion means for the franchise as a whole? Do you think this will beget a new series of anime and/or manga with Toriyama at the helm (or another block of movies perhaps)? I'm sort of curious, but also nervous about such a prospect - given how these sorts of belated, long-term re-visitations of fictional universes rarely pan out for the good *coughstarwarscough*
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I wish he would've appeared more in the series as he's my favorite character. A real shame.
Radittz is your favorite character lol? That's kind of odd lol.
but he is sooo sexy
He's definitely cool looking, although I wonder what his super saiyan forms would look like lol. What would be the difference between his SSj and SSJ2/3 forms lol? Idk, it's just a weird thought. His hair is already really long.
I still wonder why Vegeta and Goku never wish back Nappa and Raditz. Surely they could become stronger as well with enough training? Or could they wish back Planet Vegeta and their people? I just think it's sad that they're the only Saiyans left.
it would be very nice if they could convince the rest of the saiyan race to chill, but i highly doubt they'd be able to. i mean, vegeta himself isn't very nice and doesn't really care much for earth and earthlings. bardock has seen the way goku turned out and seemed like he would be about like vegeta, and if he's down for it, fasha and maybe the rest of his squad would be too.
but really, it kinda seems like a bad idea lol. too much trouble beyond a few exceptional individuals.
That makes wishing for Planet Vegeta with all it's inhabitants to be back simply impossible, due to how far in the past it's been destroyed. Planet itself can be wished back, but for what purpose ?
Nappa and Raditz ? Who cares about them ?
And not related to wishing, found this pic today on funnymamma:
Team Four Star had it right), so there's a possibility Nappa was on Earth all along, and just not doing anything.
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"There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you." -Mazer Rackham - Ender's Game Orson Scott Card